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I wonder how (and whether) this person is related to Nightingale the Robber. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 19:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

This is my source:Martelius, M. (ed.) (1944). "Ryssland i bild". Tome 1. Stockholm. p. 176.

He has taken his information from a history professor named T.J. Arne who wrote a book named "Det Stora Svitjod". You Russians are better positioned to find good sources for Solovey than I am.--Berig 19:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

On the face of it, it looks like some folklore tale, probably taken from a saga. "Solovey" is the Russian word for nightingale, "veter" is that for wind. I don't presume that Mr. Martelius is a primary source. We need something more medieval if you know I mean. If it turns out that there is come confusion with Solovey-Razboynik (seems to me there is), I advise to replace the stub with the redirect to Nightingale the Robber. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 19:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Possibly. The author writes that some skaldic poetry from skalds visiting Kievan Rus' may have survived in the form of bylinas. If you are positive that the article arises from an interpretation of Nightingale the Robber, you can redirect the page.--Berig 19:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe that he wished to pinpoint similarities between bylinas and sagas. If he names a specific skaldic source about this "Sölvi", I will merge the data into "Nightingale". --Ghirla ^-трёп- 19:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid he does not, otherwise I would have included that information. I agree with the importance of attributing information to primary sources. It would have to wait until I have the time to go and check "Det Stora Svitjod", sometime next week.--Berig 20:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)