Template talk:Softredirect

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Contents 1 Discussion 2 Image 3 Jargon? - Not user freindly 4 Bolding? 5 Minor alteration 6 Category 7 Interwiki link 8 Edit requested 9 Use SVG Image

[edit] Discussion

{{editprotected}} Wikinews now has this template. Please update the sister projects box to reflect this. —Zachary ^talk 11:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Y Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 17:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

{{editprotected}} The image is hanging off the template. Could someone please fix this? --AAA! ^(AAAA) 04:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Not on Firefox it isn't. Which browser/OS shows the problem? Could you recommend a way to fix it? --ais523 12:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe that AAA! has Internet Explorer, since I saw something similar on my userpage while ago, with a PNG (3, in that case) mysteriously moving only while in Internet Explorer (on school computers). I believe that it's a problem with the way Internet Explorer handles certain div tag calls - converting this to a table might solve it, although I don't see any problem either in Safari or in Firefox. Nihiltres^(t.c.s) 15:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I've asked User:AAA! to respond. Until then, there's no reason I see to have an active editprotected. Cheers. --MZMcBride 03:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

The image is overlapping the border. I can get you a screenshot, if you like.--AAA! ^(AAAA) 03:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Here is the screenshot, where you can see the image hanging. I think this can be cured with a <br clear="all"> tag. --AAA! ^(AAAA) 03:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I've been experimenting with various float-clearing tags in preview mode but haven't found a way to do it that works properly yet (set your browser to very large and very small font-sizes, to make sure it works at those sizes too). --ais523 07:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

My guess is that it has to do with min-height. I remember reading and running into issues with min-height and Internet Explorer before. Is there any reason this template can't be converted to a table? I think that would solve the problem. Cheers. --MZMcBride 21:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

OK, Here's the same box with a lot less code, and should look good on ALL browsers:

Soft redirect This page can be found at [[{{{1}}}]].

{| class="messagebox" style="width: auto; margin: auto auto auto 0;"
| [[Image:Crystal Clear action loopnone.png|50px]]
| '''[[Wikipedia:Soft redirect|Soft redirect]]''' <br/> This page can be found at <span id="SoftRedirect">[[{{{1}}}]].</span>
|}

I can't believe people even dare to ask if we're using Internet Explorer... I mean WTF! Since when did Wikipedia become the "Anti-IE Posterchild"? Just fix the code... Oh, I already did. Just use the code above. --Edokter (Talk) 22:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I changed it. But "daring" to ask isn't so strange, since the code was fine before as well. — Carl (CBM · talk) 01:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I know, it's the combination of the width and height that IE doesn't like. I shouldnt have lost my cool, but I was affraid it might turn into another browser kerfufle. --Edokter (Talk) 10:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jargon? - Not user freindly

Hi, just stumbled upon this. Whilst regular editors might know what you mean my 'soft redirect', readers on the whole will not. Can I suggest that it needs spelled out that the person is being offered a link to another wiki? Perhaps "Sorry, there is no such article as ABC on Wikipedia. However, our sister project XYZ has related material. Click here to be redirected to it."--Sandy Donald 19:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't like it. What jargon? What if your that template on a user page, talk page, or project page (those pages are not articles)? Why does it use <div…></div> only?  Tcrow777  talk  01:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... I'd hope "This page can be found at Foo" would be pretty clear, but this may be worth exploring. Any other ideas? – Luna Santin (talk) 00:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

The words "soft redirect" are a link to Wikipedia:Soft redirects. That is enough to explain it to a curious reader. — Carl (CBM · talk) 13:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to use soft redirects more within wikipedia. For situations where somethign almost deserves it's own article, but the bulk of it's content belongs on another page. For example, I think the different versions of the word Tyr deserves their own page, I was about to setup a soft redirect on Tyz to Tyr, but the Tyz pages would add a few lines about Tyz specifically. Is this appropriate? Mathiastck 22:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bolding?

Every time I find a soft redirect I click the link to Wikipedia:Soft redirect instead of clicking the proper one. That link alone and bold in the top of the template makes me mistake. In my opinion only the actual link should be bold and maybe the text could be rewritten to mix that link with the text. --SMP - talk (en) - talk (ca) 06:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor alteration

{{editprotected}}

Please replace the line

| [[Image:Crystal Clear action loopnone.png|50px]]

with

|width=70px| [[Image:Crystal Clear action loopnone.png|center|50px]]

thanks.

-- Cat ^chi? 23:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I actually just changed the entire template because I always hated the old one. --MZMcBride 01:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I like it though could you not use span? Span can cause problems. -- Cat ^chi? 01:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I got the code from a redirect that MediaWiki spits out. I only added one span tag; would you like me to change it to a div? --MZMcBride 02:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category

{{Editprotected}} Needs [[Category:Redirect templates]].— SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 04:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Y Done — Edokter • Talk • 12:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki link

{{editprotected}} Dear administrators, please add the following interwiki link:

[[ia:Patrono:Softredirect]]

Thank you in advance. Regards, --Julian (talk) 19:45, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. -- JLaTondre 19:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Dear administrators, please add the following interwiki link:

[[eo:Ŝablono:SoftvaraRedirektilo]]

Thank you in advance. Regards, Arno Lagrange ✉ 14:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. — Edokter • Talk • 15:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit requested

{{editprotected}} Please use {{documentation}} 16@r (talk) 16:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. --- RockMFR 18:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Use SVG Image

This template should use Image:Redirect arrow without text.svg rather than Image:Redirectltr.png --Inkwina (talk · contribs) 15:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Uhm... why? The png version is the actual system icon used by the real redirect, and looks better IMHO. — Edokter • Talk • 15:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)