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i personally think that social order is a vital asset to the world as internationally. it is cruical that order be purposed in society clearly because of the ever on going prejudice as emerging out of this as race wars, social order is initially assisted by 'birth culture' i.e family roles in an infant....if this is practiced social order will be a long standing fundamental soliditory inviting principle in the world today
^ Is that some sort of joke? lol!
it was bad
[edit] Equivocation on the term 'order'
In English, the term "social order" refers to the ordering of classes in a society based on some systematic principle, i.e. the feudal social order, etc. and this was conflated with the concept of order as opposed to disorder. For this reason, I removed the last paragraph. Lycurgus 17:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Can you provide a source for this definition of "social order"? Given the social theorists cited in the article, your usage seems overly limited and I would suggest that your removal of that paragraph somewhat premature. Eyedubya 23:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes I can but more to the point, the article should be sectioned to disambiguate the equivocation. Will do if nobody else does. There are two distinct senses of the term as I've noted above though of course the one is a generalization of the other. To be clear the 2 distinct usages are reflected in the use/non-use of an article or characterizing adjective, e.g. as in 'The Shogunate was a feudal social order that controlled Japan for 400 years' vs. 'Law and order has been a mantra of those on the right whose primary concern is maintaining social order' . Lycurgus 05:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree, the article needs development of just this kind. Go right ahead. Eyedubya 11:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yes I can but more to the point, the article should be sectioned to disambiguate the equivocation. Will do if nobody else does. There are two distinct senses of the term as I've noted above though of course the one is a generalization of the other. To be clear the 2 distinct usages are reflected in the use/non-use of an article or characterizing adjective, e.g. as in 'The Shogunate was a feudal social order that controlled Japan for 400 years' vs. 'Law and order has been a mantra of those on the right whose primary concern is maintaining social order' . Lycurgus 05:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the article should be sectioned to reflect the two meanings. However, to the extent that this article is part of the Sociology WikiProject I think that the order/disorder sense should be emphasized. In sociology and especially in sociological theory, the term social order is primarily used in the order/disorder sense. "Theories of Social Order" by Michael Hechter and Christine Horne (2003) is a recent text book that takes this sense of social order to organize an entire course in sociological theory. I am not aware of current research that uses the other sense of "order", although I am happy to learn of such work. --Htw3 18:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
