Talk:Sobriety
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Sobriety is a state of not acting out? I'm not familiar with that meaning; I would have said the basic meaning of sobriety is 'the absence of (esp alcoholic) intoxication'. It can also be used to mean 'earnest', 'drab' etc. Is this something which varies widely across English dialects?
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[edit] Please translate this into English
"willing to stop acting out in personal bottom-line addictive behaviour" -- what does that even mean? --Dcfleck 12:32, 2005 May 11 (UTC)
- Maybe the person who wrote it was drunk? --Baryonic Being 17:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- I've removed it. It makes no sense and has been there too long without anyone justifying it. Haddock420 (talk) 17:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Should this be a disambiguation page?
It reads like a disambiguation page. Should it be one? Or should we have a separate disambig page that links to sobriety (culture) or something? --Baryonic Being 17:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Disambiguation Page is a Good Idea
Sobriety is a potential 'hot topic' I think, given that some Wikipedians might be anonymous members of 12-step sobriety groups. They are required, I think, to remain anonymous about their membership, but certainly will have a good perspective on sobriety, technical and emotional. A disambig page would be helpful to sort out the biases of different modes of psychological description.
[edit] Sobriety
Anyone not involved in rehabilitation for drug abusers might find the definition of sobriety somewhat confusing.
However, the wording is correct and it is the actions of the abuser that need to be explained. Sobriety is definitely about having the abuser stop using their drug(s) of choice but it is also about having them address their attitudes and actions associated with their abuse.
It is no good having someone give up the drug if they don't address their harmful bottom line behaviours.
Behaviours such as family violence,child neglect, no regard for personal health and hygiene,poor role modelling for children,poor work performance,etc.
The true evaluation of success for an abuser is not in keeping them from using but in seeing altered attitudes and lifestyles.218.215.225.86 00:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Greg B Substance Misuse Counsellor
The above definition of "Sobriety" is so wide that the term "Insobriety" could be applied to just about anyone on the planet; indeed, sometimes it is used by unscrupulous--or, at best misguided--"therapists" as a means of attracting business. That is why those not involved (as therapists or as patients) in rehabilitation might well find the definition of sobriety somewhat confusing. Sobriety involves not being under the influence of alcohol or unprescribed drugs. All other definitions must be seen and understood as secondary.--PeadarMaguidhir (talk) 14:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)