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Contents 1 Correct fairy tale name 2 Incorrect move 3 Grimm fairy tale 4 Wired for sound 5 New project 6 Other languages 7 Other language names for the dwarfs 8 "Minimum length of an animated feature"??? 9 The first one? 10 Poster Size 11 Commentary on 1994 Video release 12 About the list of "Snow White (and/or "Dwarfs" in other languages" 13 Plot section 14 lyrics needed 15 Television 16 Trademarks or just copyrighted?? 17 The film vs. the Bros. Grimm story 18 Dwarf names 19 First full-length animated feature with sound?

[edit] Correct fairy tale name

The Grimm Fairy Tale concerned is not this one but "Snow white". Wetman 05:50, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

You are right. On first go-round I couldn't find "Snow White" under Grimm, just the Disney version. I will correct. -- Cecropia | Talk 07:26, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect move

The page that was moved to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (movie) needs to be moved back to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The fairy tale that Walt Disney's film originates from is simply titled Snow White (there are two; both are mentioned in the article) , not Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I am already working to get moderator assistance to do this. --FuriousFreddy 13:57, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grimm fairy tale

FuriousFreddy amended my changes to the disambiguation header: is the Brothers Grimm fairy tale entitled Snow White (or Snow-White) or, as I suspect and those article indicate, Snow-White and Rose-Red? -- ALoan (Talk) 10:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Snow White (Schneewittchen) is the one. Snow-White and Rose-Red (Schneeweißchen und Rosenrot) is a completely different story. In fact, I don't quite understand where your confusion comes from: the latter article quite clearly states that the story has nothing to do with the movie. Lupo 11:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is correct. I can see where it can be confusing, but this film is indeed based upon Snow-White, not Snow-White and Rose-Red. --FuriousFreddy 11:34, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry - I am a dunce. But at least we have a record of the point here now :) It would be useful to add the German names to the relevant articles too... -- ALoan (Talk) 11:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wired for sound

I've heard the film was the first to have a soundtrack album lifted directly from the audio track. Confirm & include? Trekphiler 07:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Mention should be made of the writer of the music and songs in Snow White ("One Song", "Some Day My Prince Will Come", "I'm Wishing", "With a Smile and a Song", "Whistle While You Work", "Heigh Ho (Dwarfs' Digging and Marching Song) ", "Bluddle-uddle-um-dum (Dwarfs' Washing and Yodel Song) ", "(Isn't This) A Silly Song", "Snow White (Overture) ", "Music in Your Soup" and "You're Never Too Old to Be Young") It's Frank Churchill (born 20 October 1901, Rumford, Maine, USA, died 14 May 1942, Castaic, California, USA).

He also wrote "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf", and (for "Breaking the Ice (1938) songs as "Happy As a Lark", "Put Your Heart in a Song" and "The Sunny Side of Things", as well as the songs "Love Is a Song", "I Bring You a Song", "Little April Shower", "Let's Sing a Gay Little Spring Song" for Bambi (1942). Wondermole —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.83.85.194 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 5 February 2006

[edit] New project

I want to see if anyone is interested in creating sections for each Disney animated feature that mention differences between the film and the non-Disney version of the story. For example:

In the Disney film, the dwarfs are named Happy, Dopey, etc. but in the original fairy tale, the dwarfs have no names.

Some films don't get sections like this, and these are The Lion King, The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, Brother Bear, and Home on the Range.

Any opinions about this?? Georgia guy 02:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other languages

I (again) removed improper capitalization from the Italian, French and German titles. The habit of capitlizing words in titles is not valid for every language. In Italian, French and German (among several others) the usual capitalization rules are followed. As far as I know this should apply to Spanish too but since I am not sure I didn't change it. Matteo 15:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Same goes for most languages -- a lot of the names in the language section need to be changed, but I don't feel like looking up the capitalization rules for each language, so I just did the Swedish one. • 辻斬り^? 10:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other language names for the dwarfs

The Dutch names of the dwarfs are Bloosje (Bashful) , Doc (Doc) , Dommel (Sleepy) , Giechel (Happy) , Grumpie (Grumpy) , Niezel (Sneezy) and Stoetel (Dopey). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.195.78.97 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 23 April 2006

The Greek names of the dwarfs are Γκρινιάρης (Grumpy) , Καλόκαρδος (Happy) , Ντροπαλός (Bashful) , Σοφός (Doc) , Συναχομένος (Sneezy) , Υπναράς (Sleepy) and Χαζούλης (Dopey). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.193.165.47 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 11 June 2006

I have added the Dutch name of the dwarfs.

Source:

http://www.disneyinfo.nl/dvddetail.php?film=32

http://www.mda.dds.nl/film/classics/4-1.htm

84.193.165.47 09:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Minimum length of an animated feature"???

One entry in the trivia section has this written: "Snow White is the first movie that follows the present rule of minimum length of an animated feature, which is at least 70 minutes in running time." Can anyone tell me where this information is taken from? According to wikipedia's entry on "feature film", "The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, the American Film Institute, and the British Film Institute all define a feature as a film with a running time of forty minutes or longer." Esn 03:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

RULE SEVEN

SPECIAL RULES FOR THE BEST ANIMATED FEATURE FILM AWARD

I. DEFINITION

An animated feature film is defined as a motion picture of at least 70 minutes in running time and where a significant number of the major characters in the film are animated, and animation figures in no less than 75% of the picture's running time.

Link: http://www.oscars.org/74academyawards/rules/rule07.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.216.91.86 (talk • contribs) 06:42, 2 May 2006

[edit] The first one?

Released on May 19, 1937, Academy Award Review of Walt Disney Cartoons was a collection of five of Disney's Oscar-winning shorts (Flowers and Trees, Three Little Pigs, The Tortoise and the Hare, Three Orphan Kittens, and The Country Cousin) , a package film with bridging title cards and narrator. Does it qualify to be called an animated feature from Disney? The combined running time of the shorts gives a movie with about the length of that of Saludos Amigos, which is considered a feature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.222.121.79 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 27 May 2006

[edit] Poster Size

I uploaded the larger version of the 1937 poster, by which it has better resolution. --PJ Pete

[edit] Commentary on 1994 Video release

The article states that there is a commentary by Roy O. Disney, Walt Disney's younger brother, before the start of the film. He died in 1971, twenty three years before the release of this video. Was this an archived commentary that was put before the film, or was it actually done by his son, Roy E. Disney? 65.34.154.254 13:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Just so ya know,Roy O. Disney was Walt's OLDER BROTHER,SO IT'S AUTOMATICLLY A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S,Commentaries are for DVD's and Laserdisces ONLY,SO IT'S ANGAIN A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.190.179 (talk) 17:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About the list of "Snow White (and/or "Dwarfs" in other languages"

Leave it off, please. Such a long, gangly list serves no purpose in a serious encyclopedia article. Such lists are not used in other film-related articles, so they should not be used here. --FuriousFreddy 06:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot section

Err... shouldn't this article have one? Seems like a bit of a glaring omission to me... Esn 10:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] lyrics needed

please put in the lyrics for the snow white songs

• The song lyrics don't need to be on the page. A link to a site that has them, perhaps, but not the lyrics themselves. That poses all sorts of copyright things. Spartacusprime 17:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Television

As of 2006, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is one of three Disney full-length animated classics that still have never been shown complete on television. The others are Fantasia, and Song of the South.

"Never been shown complete" - so which parts of the film have not been shown?

Also, are we only talking about the USA here, because I'm sure Song of the South has been shown complete on British television. 217.155.20.163 01:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Then change it to As of 2006, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is one of three Disney full-length animated classics that still have never been shown complete on US television. The others are Fantasia, and Song of the South. JohnathanZX4 18:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Song of the South is not considered a full-length animated feature. I've made the correction. If someone wants to do some rewording to reinclude it, go ahead.--Son of lucas (talk) 05:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trademarks or just copyrighted??

Is this film trademarked or just copyrighted?? Georgia guy 22:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

You can't trademark a film. You copyright it. You can trademark a film's title, but I'm not sure if Disney was/would be able to trademark "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". --FuriousFreddy 04:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

If I understand copyright correctly, Copyright protection on this film in many countries will end in 2036. (Year of death of Walt Disney - 1966 plus 70 years) Yet the soundtrack should already be in the public domain.(Year of first publication + 50 years). Can anybody confirm the film's copyright status for the article? vk6hgr 05:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Snow White would fall under corporate authorship, so it would be 95 years or 2032 when enters public domain. I'd be shocked if it happened in my lifetime though. The Disney folks would never let their ownership of their characters and movies pass into public domain without a huge fight. Disney makes literally billions of dollars off of these characters. Congress and the artistic community are sympathetic to copyright claims so they likely won't have to fight too hard.--Son of lucas (talk) 09:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The film vs. the Bros. Grimm story

Shouldn't there be a section ticking off the differences between the film version and the original Grimm story? Tom129.93.17.135 03:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dwarf names

The list of rejected dwarf names is a magnet for vandalism. I just took it back to what User:Testbed originally put in this edit. Also, Amazon's page for Gabler's book mentions a list of dwarf names. -- 77.97.182.56 11:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First full-length animated feature with sound?

"the first full-length animated feature with sound" -> The Wikipedia list of animated feature-length films says that there was an earlier one in 1931: "Peludópolis (Argentina) , the world's first animated feature film with sound, by Quirino Cristiani". (22. Nov. 2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.146.211 (talk) 12:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not. I changed the introduction to reflect that. The problem is that this myth is so widespread that people keep changing it back. Esn (talk) 07:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but you're really over-estimating Peludópolis and denying the historic achievement of Snow White from featuring in the lead. In the first place, Peludópolis was monochromatic. Second, the "audio" for Peludópolis was on disc, not integrated into the film stock. Lose the disc, fail to synch it up right, and bingo-bango, you don't have a talkie anymore. It's not a myth to call Snow White the first color animated feature with optical sound, so I'm changing the lead. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 21:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)