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In need of help.

Please look at the bottom of my discussion page. I have been asked to download an image by a blocked user from the Marchen Awakens Romance editors. Unfortunately, I have neither enough time nor the knowledge to do this (images are too difficult for me). As such, I have come to you for help. If you can't do it, please find someone who can. Thank you for spending you time to read this. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares (talk) 15:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Yoruichi

I was surfing through some Bleach chapters yesterday and came across a possible source that hints Yoruichi a shapeshifter. I actually tried to find a design section by Kubo-sensei, no luck. Ideas? Please reply on your talk page instead of mine. Thanks, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:26, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Characters

The main article of Naruto has most characters of the series. I wanted to know if in that page we could put (in the same page) "summons and other animals" (incluiding the tailed beasts) or sth like that.Tintor2 10:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Question

Please tell me where I can report member(s) for breaking rules, being uncivil, etc. I have seen cases of that recently and have decided to report the user(s). I won't let such acts get tolerated any longer. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares (talk) 22:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

List of Naruto story arcs

I've started a discussion here over merging the article. With the episode lists and chapter lists drastically increasing in quality, I find that this page is unnecessary, and instead might be targeted for excessive plot details in an AfD and the like. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 08:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Was merged. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 09:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I need advice...

At the Naruto Wikia, I am dealing with a fanboy/girl/whatever who is presenting a point based completely on original research. I have thrown facts at him, even going as far as to point to WPs, yet he still keeps coming back. This fan is a believer of the old classic "Haku is a girl" and has gone to great, I mean GREAT lengths to force his point on the Wiki. As you have skills with dealing with people like that what would you suggest? (If you could respond on my Talk page that would help.) Thanks.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Naruto

I have been adding references to the articles of characters and I need to know if you are making changes to some articles as you did with Naruto Uzumaki to know then in which articles I add references. It would be good if you tell the changes you are making. See you. Tintor2 10:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

As it was discussed, Sephiroth user mentions we cant use in jutsu article "chapter (, page(", that we have to use other kinds of references. Is that true? Tintor2 18:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Did you read that new thing about possible deletion in the jutsu page? If I can help adding references, tell me and Ill start. Tintor2 (talk) 20:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Ill be adding IGN references about jutsu. Recently arranged Orochimaru part in the story part.

Tintor2 (talk) 11:45, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for bothering but, do you know any page about jutsu that make reviews like for games. I added the ones of IGN, but then I only found gamefaqs.com but their reviews are made from their users and there MANY. see you and have a merry christmas or happy hanuka (offtopic). (Obviouly the time is AM) Tintor2 (talk) 10:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

The only interview I found is that famous new interview about 2008 that I thought it was fake but it was short and didnt contain jutsu. I added short sentences in some jutsu about videogames and the IGN info. The other websites dont get deep in jutsu or characters so I could only add reception of Naruto and Sasuke. See you. Tintor2 (talk) 23:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello, please tell me where should I work: jutsu(adding references), character(adding references), or Akatsuki (changing references to cite book) Tintor2 (talk) 11:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

The image of the first team of Kakashi in the article Kakashi Hatake can be replaced with a color one of the manga. Its original and appeared in one artbook. Cant it be replaced? Tintor2 (talk) 16:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. Tintor2 (talk) 20:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Have a little question. What is an independent source here? How will you decide that some character in the series deserves an article? Tintor2 (talk) 9:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

For the love of god, they want to the delete Naruto Uzumaki article. I have never seen that user that did that here. Tintor2 (talk) 00:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello, sorry to bother but I would like to ask you an advice. I have also been working in the Himura Kenshin article and it would be good an advice to know what this article needs(images, a better explanation, etc) before keeping adding references. I thought in asking you since I saw in the talk page that you are related with the series. Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 20:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

A little question, do the lists of major/minor characters of Naruto need references to the voice or they can be added as external links? I mean there are a lot to reference.Tintor2 (talk) 16:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Another question, the new jutsu of sasuke only appeared in the weekly shonen jump, is it valid to use the shonen jump as cite book? If it is the reference needs to be more specific since I dont know the number of shonen jump.Tintor2 (talk) 18:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Holy, it seems that was totally orphaned and unknown as sesshomaru and collectian didnt know it existed, and it seems almost nobody of the wikiproject didnt know. I will go to talk.Tintor2 (talk) 20:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

About Jutsu I found this [1] from the 1st databook. I have no idea what it says, but it seems some words from masashi kishimoto, do you know japanese or any user who knows japanese? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 13:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you think we could add to the main Naruto article something like this? I saw this recommended in several peer reviews and possibly we could add an introduction to Naruto universe and Akatsuki (Naruto). Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 16:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

How do you think it should be the characters:

  • Ninjas (ranks, groups, bla bla)
  • Summons
  • Tailed-beasts
  • Jinchuriki

Also, something similar to Bleach (manga)#Setting giving a bit of info of the geography and jutsu would it be good?.Tintor2 (talk) 19:23, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the Naruto#Characters info a lead may not be necessary, since there is an explanation of teams, ninjas and characters. If you thinks its ok I add the main character info to the main article. If you want to correct something of the draft, you are free to do it. See you.Tintor2 (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Apart from that I have been using the old version of the article of Rock Lee and cleaning it up here. I still have some doubts in length, background, notable info and plot overview so I would like an advice. I have already talked with Sephiiroth BCR about the out-of-universe. Well, see you.Tintor2 (talk) 20:57, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Can we confirm the death of Itachi, I mean he is sleeping with his eyes opened.Tintor2 (talk) 01:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

About the deleted minor and villains characters, should they be deleted from their relatives or friends articles? In Gaara, Yashamaru is in relatives without links. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 00:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

When the Akatsuki article is, shouldnt all those "(deceased)" from all the articles be deleted? It may also avoid users add "deceased" to the Jiraiya article.--Tintor2 (talk) 17:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I have been trying to condense shikamaru a bit, do you think its going ok? Any advice?--Tintor2 (talk) 23:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I think I could do everything I could make with shikamaru. I also asked Sephiroth about it and fixes, but he seems to be busy. I would like to increase the lead but it would require more conception to make it better.--Tintor2 (talk) 19:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Hollow-related

Any reason why you deleted Fishbone D and Hexapodus from the List of Bleach hollows? Rtkat3 (talk) 10:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

User page

Make yourself a userpage man! -Tobi4242 (talk) 00:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

image removal

why delete every single one?--Marhawkman (talk) 12:43, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

So where did that come from? I don't remember the actual rules on lists stating that they can't have more than one.--Marhawkman (talk) 11:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Never mind it took a lot of digging to find that spot in the guidelines. (even then I'm not sure if that applies to all list articles) But it did suddenly occur to me that the Naruto Universe article is not a list article. It's a regular article that contains a few embedded lists. As such it falls under the normal fair use guidelines. So I'm going to change it back now.--Marhawkman (talk) 11:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Editor Review

I've had this thing up since July and only have 3 reviews so can you please review me, good bad, I don't care, speak your mind. Please. Sam ov the blue sand, Editor Review 02:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I'll try to edit more articles but what happens usaly is that I'll add somethign or revert something only to be finished with my edit and see that someone else have done it, so i get discouraged, that and when I try to add something it always gets merged or deleted.Sam ov the blue sand, Editor Review 21:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Question regarding images

This will have no effect here this is for the Naruto wikia. If I remember correctly, you found some good images from the anime series, how did you get them? --TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Plot overview

Due to your concern, I tagged Naruto's plot overview section[2]. Are there others that need the same as such? Please respond on your talk page, I'll be watching it. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Naruto Uzumaki

Hi. As you and User:Sesshomaru are both toeing the WP:3RR line regarding the tagging of the Plot Overview section of this article for being too short, I'd like to strongly encourage you both to discuss the issue in the article talk page. As a fairly disinterested and neutral third party, I've started a topic there to help get the ball rolling. I have left a similar message on Sesshomaru's talk page to encourage him to do the same. Collectonian (talk) 20:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

"What a constructive and specific statement"

thank you ^_^ >_> -_- --Blue-EyesGold Dragon 03:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Jiraiya IS dead.

Stop changing it. We have both confirmed in and out of universe confirmation that Jiraiya IS dead. Stop changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperSaiyaMan (talk • contribs) 22:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you prove that it isn't confirmed? What proof do you have that Jiraiya is alive? This isn't the case of Sasuke, Choji, or Gaara. We have Pein saying that Jiraiya is dead. We have, what you continue saying is an unverified article (if you read the topic, it is *confirmed*), confirming Jiraiya's death. Why are you calling these things either breach in policy or unverified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperSaiyaMan (talk • contribs) 23:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Can someone please tell me why Pain isn't a verifiable source? Remember the placing of the chapter, Jiraiya's last thoughts were *before* Pain even spoke about it. And when Jiraiya expired, Tsunade seemed to notice in the same chapter. Why do you think Jiraiya isn't dead. The arguements you are making are non-sensical. SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)SuperSaiyaManSuperSaiyaMan

Jiraiya

It seems there is an edit conflict over whether Jiraiya is dead or not. I am with you on this one. It has not been confirmed yet. I also want to apologize for the whole Part in the story; Plot overview conflict. Earthbendingmaster (talk) 18:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Yea, I should have gave a better argument, Cheers. Earthbendingmaster (talk) 18:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Nnoitra Jiruga - Hierro

Ah, thanks for catching that for me. I didn't remember reading the word 'hierro' in Bleach before, so I took it as his zanpakuto's name. I had to check the page on 'Espada' to correct myself...but you beat me to it. --Naruttebayo (talk) 05:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Minazuki

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Bleach_shinigami#Minazuki

You have any input here?--Marhawkman (talk) 02:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Wouldn't looking it up in a japanese dictionary count as source-based research?--Marhawkman (talk) 05:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The original version cited Dai_Kan-Wa_jiten as a source. (an in text citation) Obviously I can't verify it for multiple reasons. 1: I don't have a copy. 2: It's a Japanese/chinese dictionary. I don't speak either language.

It does count as a valid source. But good luck actually using it as a source. >_<--Marhawkman (talk) 06:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Template

You said it leaves too much white space. What do you think of this one. Just wanting your opinion. Thank you. Cheers. Earthbendingmaster 23:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I personally do not mind a lot of white space, but whatever other users prefer is fine with me. Also, I like your signature but why haven't you created your user page yet? Cheers. Earthbendingmaster 04:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

You could still have it red. You would just have to enter some extra codes in your signature box. Cheers. Earthbendingmaster 18:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you revert

Hi, Snapper2. Thank you for List of minor Naruto characters‎ to good reverting.--Naohiro19(Talk Page/Contributions/mail) 10:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: Prettyful signature

I saw your comment on User:Earthbendingmaster's talk page; specifically, the one about how having a userpage would make your signature blue. Technically, you can force the Snapper part to be red with a <font color=red> tag. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 23:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Sasuke Uchiha GA

After rewriting sections and adding stuff to Sasuke Uchiha, it's almost ready for a GA run. Only thing left is references for the plot overview sections. My only other qualm is how we don't know the page numbers for some of the volumes, perhaps we should simply leave that field out? Thanks, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Tobi

For the Akatsuki article, you said it is 'not of great significance' but you are not denying the statement you removed. So there is proof that Tobi is a former subordinate of Zetsu? If there is, it could be significant. Survival705 // Talk / Contribs // 08:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Number

On Talk:Sasuke Uchiha, did you say you need the page numbers for the manga? Earthbendingmaster 20:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I could try. Earthbendingmaster 22:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

About Naruto Uzumaki

Instead of us warring, it would be best if we can settle this all here. Regards, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Kakashi Hatake GA run

I've in the process of cleaning up and adding out-of-universe stuff to the aforementioned article, but proper in-universe referencing is necessary. The entire "character outline" section also needs to be seriously reduced closer to the size of Sasuke Uchiha. Thanks, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 04:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it would be fine. If the information doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. An explanation can be given to the GA reviewer. It satisfies the GA comprehensiveness requirement (which is miles from the FA comprehensiveness requirement). Even so, look at Master Chief (Halo) or Cortana, both FAs, which don't have immensely long conception sections. It doesn't have to be loads long, meaning that the current size is fine for GA. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Please refrain from unneeded deletions. Discuss beforehand, *please*.

I'm writing because I am just as interested in making the best Naruto Uzumaki page as possible as you are. I know that we both want to make it as good and accurate as possible, but lately it seems that you are making changes based solely on your opinion, and not on the information at hand.

Deleting the information added regarding the Rasenshuriken seems spiteful, but I'm trying hard to assume good faith. I added the information because it is directly related to the jutsu (its power, type, and the dangers involved), but you claim that it isn't necessary. The information isn't simply anecdotal, it is key to the jutsu.

There isn't a reason to delete it based on length of the section either, as I have been told by SephirothBCR that a two or three paragraph section would be fine, and there are only two paragraphs as of now. Even with the small amount discussed in that section, this isn't an ancillary character or a supporting character. This is *the* main character, the character that the show is named after. If anyone is going to have a larger section it would be him, if only for the sheer amount of focus on him during the show.

As I have said before in the Discussion page, if you have proof of any of your claims, *please* feel free to show it. I'm not trying to argue, I'm simply trying to be as accurate as possible. I hope you see what I am trying to say and will take it into consideration.

Thanks. DestradoZero 02:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I really do. I respect the viewpoint of one jutsu taking up so much space in regards to its usage, but I think the plan would be to lengthen the other information regarding the Rasengan and Shadow Clones rather than shortening the Rasenshuriken's info.
What about including the steady progression of the number of clones he has been able to make at once? It's now up to the hundreds, whereas it was merely a handful originally. As far as the toads, someone could easily add in the information about Jiraiya's teaching of the seal, and which toads have been shown as of now.
If someone is deliberately limiting the space of the article, we should petition him/her or someone higher up to give us the space we need. That would probably fix a lot of problems.
As far as my disappearing for weeks...I can't argue with you there. I've been trying to maintain my attention here lately, but sometimes outside influences keep me away for a while. I'll try to fix that. DestradoZero 22:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Bleach character cleanup

I've started a discussion over cleanup of the Bleach characters here. Comments would be appreciated. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Gaara GA run

I've rewritten a tad bit of the aforementioned article, and condensing, cleaning up, and sourcing the usual sections is all that's left (I'll finish the lead later). Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 04:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Any timetable on when you'll cleanup the character outline and plot overview sections? Sorry if I was unclear in the above post, and there's certainly no hurry, but I was curious. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Do it at your own pace. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 00:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Gaara was put on hold. It seems the problem is the prose.Tintor2 (talk) 00:22, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Rukia Kuchiki GA run

I've tacked on a reception section to Rukia Kuchiki and I'll start working on an "appearances in other media" section, but the rest of the article needs to be cleaned up per the format of our recent Naruto GAs. Could you take care of this? Also, I'm practically clueless as to where we're going to find conception information for her article, as there doesn't appear to be a comparative artbook for Bleach we can use. Thoughts? If the material doesn't exist, then it doesn't exist, which we can explain at a GA review, but it would be nice if it did. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 00:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

If no possible source of conception information exists, then it doesn't exist. As far as I can see, a lack of a conception section due to this reason shouldn't be a problem for a GA review. As for the cleanup, take your time. There's no rush. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 01:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Orochimaru GA run

Same as usual. Feel free to do it at your leisure. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

List of Naruto characters revamp

See discussion here. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 07:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge complete. See discussion on stuff to do here. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 02:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I do realize that a lot of the rewrite/writing stuff I'm requesting for List of Naruto characters will ultimately fall on you, as I'm utterly horrible at doing it (List of characters in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow took me ages to get up to standard). That said, take it at your own pace. This is sort of our crowning achievement of sorts for the series, and a first for the project as well. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

What's wrong with mentioning the Obito-Tobi theory?

I don't see why this extremely popular theory shouldn't be mentioned under the Obito section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkmage Rector (talk • contribs) 15:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Merge discussion

See discussion thread concerning merging Akatsuki (Naruto) here. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Article improvements

Do you think that Gaara could be taken again to a GA review again (I found a nice interview witth his voice actor that can make bigger the reception[3]? Of course, first it would be better to push Shikamaru to GA (I personally like him more ^_^).--Tintor2 (talk) 19:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

BarnSakura for excellent edits
Talking about improvements Snapper I hereby award you the Anime and Manga BarnSakura for your excellent edits at Naruto and Bleach (manga) articles, it is amazing how it improved Tintor2 (talk) 16:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Started a new discussion here. Feel free to join.--Tintor2 (talk) 01:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer review

If you have the time, comments at the peer review for List of Naruto characters would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Your redirect of Beelzebub (Sand Land)

Can't say it was illegitimate, I was a newbie at the time of its creation. By the time I realized the character didn't merit a page, despite it becoming a GA, didn't really have the heart to get rid of it. Glad somebody was bolder than me. Do you think some of the sourced content and images can be of good use? Inclusively, what becomes of its GA status? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Drive-by nomination

User:Busboy basically did a drive-by nomination for Naruto Uzumaki to WP:GAN, and as it's definitely not ready, as well as the fact this is a drive-by nomination, could you keep tabs on the discussion here? Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Never mind. Nomination was never transcluded at WP:GAN, so I just removed the notice from Talk:Naruto Uzumaki. Do keep tabs on him to see if he does it again. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Another question...

Even though its been months since I asked you something anyway. But where do you get the kanji of Japanese texts? For example I will use the new Hawk (鷹 Taka). Where did you guys find that kanji because the translator I have doesn't give that kanji.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Good ideas. Thanks.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)