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[edit] SNLF

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. 151.205.43.10 18:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. Syrthiss 12:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tony Blair talk page

I'm sorry SmokeyTheCat, I fairly rigorously undo anything vandalistic, including rude remarks, and in my hurry I saw your comment as being on the main Tony Blair page as opposed to the Talk:Tony Blair page, so I apologise, I shouldn't have removed it. Feel free to add it back. Thanks. MarkThomas 11:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Susana Reche

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Random Passer-by 18:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination: Susana Reche

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[edit] Tony Blair, worst Briton

I have removed this from the article as it falls foul of WP policies, please see Talk:Tony Blair#Hundred Worst Britons The18thDoctor 10:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The limits to encyclopedias

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia by creating the page The limits to encyclopedias. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. See WP:NOR. NawlinWiki 13:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem with the article was that it was your original opinion. See Wikipedia:No original research. NawlinWiki 14:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

<<It was a very anodyne and inoffensive article which many people might have agreed with. You didn't give anyone a chance to read it.>> Doesn't matter if it was offensive, inoffensive, or the next Gettysburg Address. Because it's your original opinion, it's not appropriate for an encyclopedia. NawlinWiki 15:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Just browsing.... The limits to encyclopedias sounds interesting, and suitable as a Wikipedia essay or Userspace essay. You might consider asking for userfycation (undeletion and move to User:SmokeyTheCat/The limits to encyclopedias. Do you still have I copy? I'd be interesting in reading it. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Go_Seigen.jpg

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[edit] Windows Vista

Hello; I've removed your comment from this article's talk page. Wikipedia talk pages are for discussing the article itself, and what can be done to improve it, not for general chat. There are plenty of good sites out there for discussions, but when we're here, let's focus on improving the encyclopedia. Thanks. -/- Warren 19:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Pardon me for butting in, but I saw your message on Warren's talk page and thought I could clarify. Talk page guidelines specify that Talk pages are not for general conversation. Keep discussions on the topic of how to improve the associated article. Irrelevant discussions are subject to removal (emphasis mine). That is, the talk pages can be used to discuss about the associated article - its strengths, weaknesses and how to improve it; and not for having a general discussion about the subject of the article. Your edit asked for opinion about Windows Vista, not the article about Windows Vista. As such, it was not a suitable topic for discussing on the talk page, and by Wikipedia policy, subject to removal. What you wanted to talk about is worthy of a discussion forum, not an encyclopedia. It was only this reason Warren had deleted your message, not to be rude to you or anything.
Also, please assume good faith before inferring anyone's actions to be rude - especially when it is accompanied with a polite message explaining why it was done. Hope you understand. You are most welcome to talk about the article, or even add to it directly. But be aware that we are limited to incorpotrating text that is attributed and free from personal bias. --soum (0_o) 12:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It seems a bit rude and unnecessary of you to remove my contribution to the talk page on this. I didn't touch the main article and was making an intelligent contribution, hoping to get some feedback. SmokeyTheCat 11:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It's policy: Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. It also says this right at the top of the talk page. Removing off-topic conversation is actually necessary to keep us focused on building an encyclopedia. -/- Warren 15:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lauryn Hill

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Steelyard_Blues.jpg

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[edit] RE: Help please!

Hi Geoff, i added some extra stuff on your page, i might off moved some boxes too. I'm not sure if that was what you were going for, let me know! =)  LaNicoya  •TALK• 18:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I hope i got it right =) Thank you so much for the barnstar, its my first one hehe!  LaNicoya  •TALK• 15:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, i looked at it... it seems fine " SmokeyTheCat  •TALK•" is it the time stamp you dont get? When you sign your name and want the time to show up after it enter that code with five "~" after it.  LaNicoya  •TALK• time stamp ---> 18:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC) 10:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)SmokeyTheCat 10:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, i just found out how to get your sig. when you sign your posts with the four tilds =). At the top of the page you'll see a link that says "my preferences", click on it and enter the code for you sig. where it says "Signature" and check the box that says "Raw" right under it and then save.  LaNicoya 

 •TALK• 13:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Testing  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 10:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC) Testing ...  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 10:12, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Sarah_Vaughan.jpg

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[edit] FLSN Page

Your help is requested at the Sandinista National Liberation Front page. Specifically, the POV pushing taking place in the Red Dawn inspired KGB section. Thanks in advance. Abe Froman 19:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

You want to turn this into a "who can grab more friends", we can play that game. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 19:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
TDC, Please do not stalk me. Abe Froman 19:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sarah Jane Morris

Hi, I fixed up the situation with the two different people of the same name.

The page that *was* at Sarah Jane Morris (disambiguation) didn't work because anyone typing in "Sarah Jane Morris" was going to go straight to the actress's page, and *that* didn't mention the singer, nor the dab page.... they'd never have come across them(!)

One solution would have been to put a "dab" line at the top of her page like

For the English singer, see Sarah Jane Morris (singer)

but I chose to move the actress's page to Sarah Jane Morris (actress) instead, and to make Sarah Jane Morris itself the disambiguation page.

Hope this helps.

Fourohfour 18:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Ronald Reagan. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. The Evil Spartan 17:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

So you and your fellow Reagan fans can quote far-Right sources like the Cato Institute and this constitutes neutrality???SmokeyTheCat 10:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not even going to dignify that with a response. You were inserting improper POV, and you know it. As for me, I've never even touched the Reagan page, thank you very much, except to say I thought it was too long. The Evil Spartan 14:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Nigel Short

Please stop vandalizing Nigel Short. Quale 02:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not vandalism. It's a piece of trivia that is of interest.  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 08:20, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FSLN page again

Greetings. Somehow stumbled upon your edits and I like the cut of your jib. There's a little edit war brewing on the FSLN page. I'm trying to keep the civil war from reigniting, but the casualties are mounting. As someone who's edited the page before, would you mind checking in and helping the kids before they kill each other (over who killed each other). Gracias Notmyrealname 18:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Please don't get them started on the whole KGB/Marie Osmond conspiracy theories! Notmyrealname 15:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation


We need any members who can make collaborative helps within the scoupe of the project, you are very welcome, even only if you know about few artists, but artists that you like a lot. Think about it further. Eduemonitalk 20:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ronald Reagan

Yes, this man's page needs some work. Although there are many polls which show how many stupid Americans think this man was a great president, I think it is quite difficult to convey to these people that his actions have ruined our nation. Do you happen to know where I can find any scholarly criticism of him? And I do appreciate your encouragement. Fighting right wing bias is certainly an uphill battle. Notecardforfree 19:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments on the talk page of Bono

I've left a message for you at Talk:Bono. Chupper 21:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your questions at Talk:Alice Walker

I've answered your recent questions to Talk:Alice Walker, and have also done some slight formatting updates to the two articles you've created. I suggest you read Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Style guidelines and have a look around the Novel WikiProject in case you're interested in having more to do with novel articles. It's always good to see someone who's interested in creating novel articles. :) María (críticame) 23:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

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I changed and added categories and the stub template. But I'll leave it for you to expand the article :) User:Barliner chat 11:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possessing the Secret of Joy

Hey, I am aware of the book--I think I deleted the article because it was spam. Fear not, it should be quite safe. jengod 17:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Gay Ex-Jehovahs Witnesses

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[edit] Slackness

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[edit] Vandalism to Ronald Reagan page

Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Ronald Reagan, you will be blocked from editing. Happyme22 17:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

It was not vandalism. I was correcting a factual error. The Nicaraguan government at the time was not communist so the Contras can't have been anti-communist.  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 15:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reagan

I noticed your comments on Hapyme22's page and thought you might like to know that the article is up for FAC review. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Ronald_Reagan Wikipediatoperfection 15:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saint Ana

Hello, Smokey. I recently discovered the article Saint Ana, and since a page already exists on that subject (and is much more extensive), I have made the smaller article into a redirect. Since you are the creator of the page, I thought it would be courteous to notify you. Have a good day and happy editing, Alekjds talk 19:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Speedy deletion of Tori King

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[edit] Tori King

I'm sorry if I got carried away. I go through the New Pages list and we get hundreds of people that put "I am famous" on one line and/or use WP for advertising. Again, If I got carried away, I'm sorry. If this is an article you feel belongs then please put a {{hangon}} tag right under the CSD tag and it'll hold the article there. That'll give you some time to expand and provide context for keeping the article. If you just take the CSD tag off you'll get noticed by the admins, cause they hate that. Let me know if you need some help, I'll do what I can. Padillah (talk) 13:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aquatic ape hypothesis

Please note the discussion here. WLU (talk) 17:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London Meetup - January 12, 2008

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[edit] Narnia

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For the record, yes, there is The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian. Alientraveller (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, that's not how you phrased it. I'll add a link in the lead. Alientraveller (talk) 21:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Replied here

--VS talk 22:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sassy

Thanks for your great contributions to Sarah's albums. I've standardised Sarah + 2, and I'll do the others. You could use it as a template if you want. I've found it quite hard to find any kind of discography or sessiongraphy for Sass online, can you help? Thanks again :) Gareth E Kegg (talk) 14:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Lee MinJin

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Stroppy

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[edit] Articles for individual songs

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The articles haven't been deleted but they have been redirected back to the Countdown to Ecstasy article. I've merged in the factual information regarding the My Old School incident and the sampling of Show Biz Kids to the main album article. The rest of the text was either redundant or commentary on the lyrics which is not useful. Exxolon (talk) 22:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll try again. I have NOT deleted your work. I've simply edited the articles to point to the main album article. If you go to each article and click the 'history' tab at the top you will be able to access your version and retrieve whatever you like. However as each article stood there was insufficient information that could be sourced about each song to warrant an individual article on each song. You are better off expanding the Countdown to Ecstasy article instead. Please note that commentary on lyrics is not something that we normally have here unless it's sourced and relevant.
Please also note that attacking other editors, swearing at them and generally being unpleasant is not going to help. If you disagree with someone's actions, please inform them politely. We have policies on civility and personal attacks, I suggest you read them. It's also polite to give editors a chance to respond to each message on their talk page. Exxolon (talk) 22:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Courtesy notice. I've asked for assistance at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:SmokeyTheCat. Exxolon (talk) 22:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good manners

Wikipedia works because we all cooperate, which is why we have a civility policy requiring us all to speak politely to one another. Wikipedia's rules are numerous and complex, which is why we appreciate it when other users point out rules that we are not familiar with and correct errors that we have made. Some editors find it hard to work together with others, which is why we block people from editing if they are rude to other users. It would only take one more rude post of the sort you left for User:Exxolon before you, too, were blocked. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding songs

In general, the consensus has been that information about individual songs belongs on the page of the album, not on separate pages- that way, it's easier to find and use. There isn't much reason to have an article on a single song unless it's a song that has its own importance and there's so much to say about it that it wouldn't fit conveniently on the album page, and so many sources that it's clear that the song has a significance that goes beyond that of the album. We Are the Champions is an example of the kind of song that has so much material that it needs its own page. You don't have to feel badly for not knowing that consensus, but it is the way we generally do things. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Apology accepted.

No hard feelings - if you need a hand with anything you are welcome to drop a note on my talk page. Exxolon (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Is everything ok atm? you can just write the song description in teh album page if there is too much of a disagreement as to the location. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:10, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ethiopian famine dispute

Be careful SmokeyTheCat! Til Eulenspiegel has a long record of obsessive edit-warring over a wide range of subjects. One of his tactics appears to be to provoke opponents into breaking the 3 revert rule and then applying to have them blocked.210.246.12.77 (talk) 10:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)