Talk:Smadar Lavie

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-05-14. The result of the discussion was keep.

In accordance with the following policy

I removed certain paragraphs from the Talk about this entry. (Some of them are not relevant anymore, and some of them were libelious and offensive.) All the non-offensive bits were left unchanged. GL 05:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] The wikify tag notifies the Wikipedia community that you need help

You are more likely to get help with the tags on there. The tag lets people know that your article needs wikifying -- it's not a stigma -- it doesn't mean your article is bad. There are many Wikipedians who spend their time trying clear up the articles needing wikifying. Without the tag you are less likely to get help. Plus the tag has links to the Style Manual etc. showing you the rules you need to follow. Mattisse(talk) 22:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Much improved since you removed all that extra stuff

Just let the facts speak for themselves, with referencing citations of course. There is no immediate danger here. Mattisse(talk) 23:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Cite Sources

Please cite sources for these controversies. biographies of living persons require a high degree of citation and reliable sources. If none are provided then this whole article could be deleted in the future since the information could be seen as libel. Konman72 10:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Massive prune

I have hacked out everything but one paragraph which should be easy to justify.

Once you have referenced this properly, you can add more stuff in, but you're going to have to justify everything A LOT.

Anybody adding further attacks to this article is likely to be subject to sanctions of a lengthy nature.

HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 12:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I've taken advice and protected it, so work out any changes here on the talk-page in a peacable manner, please. —Phil | Talk 12:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Please remove even that single paragraph

I would propose to remove even that single paragraph until things are clarified on the discussion board. Can you please do that? GL 14:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.92.139 (talk • contribs)


[edit] Evidence that Smadar Lavie was, indeed, an Associate Professor at UC Davis

These are two independent websites of UC Davis, both mentioning Prof. Lavie as "Associate Professor."

GL 20:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Letters of appointment of Professor Smadar Lavie

For all those who ever dared to cast doubt into the title of Professor Lavie:

GL 15:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Professor Lavie's current title

Beit Berl College's president, Aharon Zeidenberg, verified Lavie's professorship directly with the University of California at Davis.

[edit] Professor Lavie's Age

Since this was also a subject of debate, I uploaded a scan of her passport (with its number covered):

[edit] Verdict of the Supreme Court of Israel

This is the verdict of the Israeli Supreme Court concerning the custody case (personal status) of Professor Lavie's son, in Hebrew:

And its English translation is available here:

The legal terms are not perfect in this English translation (e.g., it should be leave of appeal instead of permission of appeal), but these are minor errors caused by translating the original Hebrew text verbatim.

There has never been any criminal charges against Professor Lavie, and the documents here are of civil nature. The court found that Professor Lavie was acting in order to save her son when she removed him from the USA.

GL 06:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)



[edit] Is There an Editor Reading This?

Gabor, I am not going to go into a deletion and counter deletion war with you. You chose to remove Smadar Lavie's biographical details from the "discussion",

[edit] Indeed

I did so in accordance with Wikipedia's policy that I quoted above. Indeed, and editor could be very helpful in resolving this issue. To satisfy your interest, I uploaded to my personal page Professor Lavie's letters of appointments.

(the above is by GL, I believe.). GL 15:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)~

[edit] On the Israeli Academy

[edit] Shin Bet and the Israeli Academy

[edit] Other interesting links

[edit] Low academic standards at the Hebrew University

This website might shed some light on how the Israeli adacademy operates: Higher Education in Israel. Two particularly interesting items are:

It goes without saying that in accordance with the arrogant style and manners of censorship in the name of academic freedom typical of Israel's academe, Professor Bergman became a subject of academic witch hunt as a result of these publications as chronicled in his home page above.