Talk:Smörgåsbord

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[edit] Julbord

This section is written in an editorial or POV bombastic style, and needs to be either rewritten simply in describing the foods, or removed entirely. Encyclopedias speak in the third person, and should almost never use the second person or talk directly to the reader, as it does now. --Kuzaar-T-C- 16:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I've started the effort, but there is a long way to go. I think with another (admittedly major) edit, this article will have improved beyond 'start-over' status.Reimelt 20:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Note that when discussing "Jansons Frestelse", "ansjovis" and "anchovies" is not the same: The swedish "Ansjovis" is "sprats pickled the anchovy way" (its made from "skarpsill"), while the english "anchovies" is known in swedish as "sardeller". This is when talking about food dishes. When talking about the species of fish, "ansjovis" and "anchovies" is the same.

We made some changes to keep the spirit of of the original article but with more simplified language. (referring to suggestions made here)

That picture isn´t much of a smörgåsbord. This is more like it:http://www.missmaud.com.au/write/SmorgLunchNewLge.jpg I don´t know how to edit pictures though.

When did the the smorgasbord come to being? How dose it compare tot he French buffet?

Mid 1800s.

Some would say that it compares favorably to the French Buffet- as the saying goes, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating!" :) --Kuzaar-T-C- 13:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smörgåsbord/Smorgasbord?

Are the diacritics really ever used in English? Isn't the correct English spelling smorgasbord? We could use the Swedish spelling when referring specifically to the Swedish smörgåsbord. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 12:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The English word smorgasbord is essentially a synonym for a buffet. There is already an article on that and I see no reason to duplicate content about buffets in general in this article. The main justification for this article's existence to cover the specifically Swedish traditions. Hence, I find the Swedish word with mandatory diacriticals a more appropriate main title for the article. As for whether the diacriticals are used in English, yeah they are probably not. I've seen it that way but I think it's uncommon (my dictionary has both). hajhouse 08:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I figured the "English" section might be rewritten... 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 09:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to be pedantic, but they aren't diacritics. Read the article Swedish alphabet:
The letters "Å", "Ä" and "Ö" are considered distinct letters in Swedish and are sorted after Z as shown above (unlike the German umlauts in the German alphabet).
--EvilFred (talk) 01:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

How do Swedish people call the dish made with eel? Is it also cured and eaten raw like rakfisk? And what beverages are drunk in julbord except alcoholic beverages? --Appletrees (talk) 11:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

The eel on the julbord is usually smoked, and it is unsurprisingly called "smoked eel". Except for the alcoholic beverages, the most common drinks are Julmust and Mumma (English, look at the bottom, Swedish). Some people drink Coke, but that's just plain wrong. --194.22.3.6 (talk) 13:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Interesting, Swedish and English seem to have a lot in common. Thank you for letting me know the other information.--Appletrees (talk) 19:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Det store kolde bord

Smörgasbord seems to exactly the same as the danish lunch buffet ('Det kolde bord', or 'Det lune bord'). Probably just a common scandinavian tradition. Should the article be expanded to cover the danish variant or is a new article more appropiate? We probably need to find a source discussing the possible difference or similarity... Carewolf (talk) 15:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Change the pictures!!

Both the smörgåsbord picture and the julbord picture only shows desserts and has nothing to do with neither smörgåsbord or julbord. Plus cupcakes are not a traditional swedish dish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.226.178.14 (talk) 22:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm the one who added the pictures from flickr to this article. I think they look good and fit to the contents. I'm not a Swedish and don't live in any of the Scandinavian countries, therefore, the pictures are my best. If you can take pictures of Smorgasbord, please feel free to replace them with better images.--Appletrees (talk) 19:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Here:http://www.missmaud.com.au/Portals/0/restaurant/SmorgLunchNewLge.jpg is a good example of a real smörgåsbord. I don´t know how to add pictures,btw. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.226.178.26 (talk) 23:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, the picture seems to be taken in Australia and copyrighted as well. If you want to upload files, you need to make an account and then see the left menu at the bottom. There is "upload files' menu" where you have to go. However, you need to upload either your own pictures or free images from copyright. Or you can get a permit from photographer via email. As I said, the pictures are my best and it is time for you to show your contribution.-Appletrees (talk) 11:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I just don´t understand how you can call that a smörgåsbord.There are only breakfast items in that picture. Where is the herring? The salmon? The meatballs? The sausages? Your picture lack all the food that is supposed to be on a smörgåsbord and cupcakes are still not a traditional swedish dish. Miss Maud may be australian but she is right anyway. Plus the julbord pictures only shows candy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.226.178.26 (talk) 21:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Who is Miss Maud? The link shows just a picture of buffet and no description or indication written on the page. I don't think Swedish people usually call musicians for their meal unlike the picture. It was like an event held at a restaurant. Besides, the internet domain clearly is not belonged to Sweden. The pictures I added are all from Swedish flickr users with the title "Smorgasbord". If you think they are not authentic, or traditional Swedish smorgasbord, then please leave a caption in the image template. Before complaining about others' effort, please contribute something. As I repeatedly said, that is my best. Why don't you take pictures and upload images of "traditional Swedish smorgasbord or Julbord? You're a Swedish, so you can grab as many chance as you can. --Appletrees (talk) 17:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)