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[edit] Royal trains
This article lacks any mention of the Royal Station or the use by Royal trains of the branch generally.Hymers2 (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- You're quite right, it is an omission. This article was one of the first ones I expected to tackle at WP. I now have 'the' reference book too. But there are so many articles requiring attention! Fortunately 'WP has no deadline'.
- One day... EdJogg (talk) 12:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Diagram
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This diagram is a work in progress put here for others to contribute and comment. The layout at the junction with the main line needs research; although the current diagram shows the MPD access off the junction I have looked on Google Earth and OS and the junction is a small triangle with no room for access to a shed, particularly another triangular junction. The correct icon (Main and south-east open, south-west closed) is not available yet. Thoughts?Britmax (talk) 10:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think the line diagram should indicate the existance of the goods yard but need not show detail: the station diagram seems the proper place for that. Cramming all into one place leads to a wide diagram which is difficult to maintain. It's a difficult line to show if the curve at the southern end is to be depicted. I suspect this is what has led you to go against the layout of nearly all other line diagrams in placing text on the left. Btw, the junction at the north end is incorrect - you'll need a new icon made up (as I also do for the elevated station in Windsor) - and the label for the Royal curve is ambiguous. Bazza (talk) 11:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Slough End: The mainline junction is correct in the article as it stands. Slough Shed was sited within the triangle junction (since housed-over) and immediately to the east in the area bordered by the branch line (W), the main line (N), Stoke Road (bridge) (E) and what is now TVU University (S). The use of a 'triangle junction' icon to access the shed was the nearest match to what was actually there. It was a fairly small shed, and the icon represents the wealth of pointwork that would have been present. While the Queen's Curve is unfortunately shown with a kink in, rather than as one side of the triangle, I thought that the existing layout showed the features and allowed appropiate labelling in the best way possible within the constraints of the routemap icons. The shed and the curve are both features that are significant enough to have their own sections, once I get around to expanding this article properly. (Too busy with steam engine articles at present!) I would strongly oppose a change to the form suggested in the diagram here.
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- Windsor End: The revised arrangement on the adjacent map is correct as it highlights the sharp curve into the station (not apparent on the current article routemap, although included on my earlier version which did not include the goods yard detail). However, I am not certain about the link to the Gas Works. My understanding is that there was a wagon turntable used to access a siding that ran through the arches to the gas works on the other side of the station approach. Unfortunately, THE reference work on the branch line does not mention the gas works siding, so I have not been able to double-check the detail.
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- General: I am not convinced about having the captions on both sides of the line. With the curve into the station there ought to be ample room on the right hand side for all the text. An alternative suggestion I made to someone was that the station should have its own little diagram showing the detail of the goods yard, etc, and that the main diagram only showed a simple 90deg curve into a terminus station, omitting all the goods yard detail.
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- EdJogg (talk) 11:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Revised Split Diagrams
I've worked up these adaptations in line with EdJogg's thoughts. The branch diagram awaits further work on Slough shed Britmax (talk) 08:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
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- On the line diagram, I'm not keen on using multiple rows for long lines of text. It's not clear what the text refers to in some cases. And the station diagram contains an unelevated straight south of the bridge which is not there in reality. Also, the station map displays with split lines in my browser (meaning that there are vertical gaps between the images). I drafted both diagrams a while ago at User:Bazza 7 but got distracted elsewhere. You are welcome to steal any or all. Bazza (talk) 13:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Agree with Bazza7 re multi-line comments and splitting effect.
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- The revised working of the locoshed is...hmmm. Well, quite apart from being plain 'wrong' (I'm sure that access was not restricted as shown) the diagram currently looks rather like a very skinny weightlifter! And the notes could apply to anything.
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- If there is a real problem with including the locoshed, I guess we'll just have to leave it and the Queen's Curve notes off the diagram, though I'm not really convinced that there's anything wrong with the diagram in the article at the moment. Maybe if the diagram had a scale to show that the whole line was only 2 miles long, and that the triangle junction was no larger than 100yards across...? Of course, having some photos of the shed would help. Anyone got anything usable?
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- EdJogg (talk) 13:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)