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From the depths of the abyss

Hi S_V, I'm b-a-a-ck! Where wasn't I?

I want to thank you again for your very kind, generous words you've written on Wally's talk page. I greatly appreciate all your support!

Cordially & sincerely yours, El_C

Pharlap, a Ww sockpuppet

I think it's rather clear Contribution. El_C 16:22, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps I missed something, but from the time stamps it looks like he would have had plenty of time to post that on the page using the two account, no? El_C 16:45, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't read closely enough, you alluded to that, in fact. Anyway, no, I don't think it has any bearing on the likelihood of this, one way or the other. El_C 16:57, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Did you try doing using Whois? We may not need the developers to make these extrapolations. El_C 17:18, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The standard Whois might not be revealing enough. I can use better software to make a comparison, but I don't have time to open my ports and set it up, as I am literaly off. I'm sure other non-devs can help though just as effectively, if not more so. If there's no connection between the two after that, then we can trouble the devs to be sure. El_C 17:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wow. Major oops. (It's been another long night/morning, and I'm still battling with my computer. I think it's possessed.) Thanks for catching that and moving it to El_C's talk page. As a matter of fact, thanks for everything. (I'm trying not to think about the deadlines looming. :( ) deeceevoice 17:59, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the user Pharlap hasn't contributed at all to any talk pages, where his syntax could be more closely examined. I note that he uses the word "pathetic" in his response to the complaint lodged against him in the RfC. It's a word I used to describe Wareware and that Wareware picked up on and used several times afterwards. The "gaff" I referred to is this: "Hello Mailer Diablo! I just drop[ped] in to say hello and thank you for your warm welcome!  :-)" Pharlap 05:46, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC) It simply struck me that reads like the kind of mistakes he's made in various discussion threads. Hardly conclusive, but interesting. Also, interesting: Pharlap's last post on the talk page of the RfC. It reads just like Wareware's initial response to the RfC in its total denial/refusal to accept responsibility or answer charges that his edited discussion threads in a deliberate misrepresentation of my comments are sheer garbage. deeceevoice 01:05, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry Slim, I left right as you commented on my talk page. In answer to your question: there is software that greatly simplifies the tracert aspect of it by charting the hops on a world map. Thus, if both IPs are from CA, and even more specifically, LA (if we, for the sakes of argument assume that Ww is, indeed a student at UCLA), that certainly is more revealing of a connection than if one IP was from, let's say, Hyderabad. That said, there are methods in which a network address can pretend it's in one place even though, pyshically, it's at another. A clear syntaxical relationship would be important in establishing whether this is sockpuppetry or not. But, I must note, it's the contributions that I find most suspicious. El_C 08:19, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Argh, again, I write and write without reading closely enough a one-sentence question. In (really) answer to your question how we can tell "if we don't know which IP address WW has used?" We can't. We need at least two IPs to compare. If we can't track that down ourselves, the devs should know. Though, again, he could have masked or distorted it. All speculative at this point. El_C 08:28, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Edit counts

Slim, how are you getting those edit counts for various editors? Jayjg (talk) 16:59, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Kate's tools El_C 17:14, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks; I thought they were broken. Or maybe the link I was using was. Jayjg (talk) 17:28, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
My pleasure. Your edit count is... prohibitive. :) El_C 17:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Oliver North

Hello! Could you take a look at the Oliver North article, please? A new account (but clearly old user), Ger6 (talk · contributions), is trying to insert PoV references to North's being a national hero, etc., and has reverted my edits, including many unrelated to his obsession. He's now reverted to his version three times in (approx.) under an hour. I'm about to revert to my version; if he reverts again he's broken the 3RR. because I'm reverting to a different version (the one that I painstakingly copy-edited) I'm safe, but even if I werent't this is getting irritating and time-consuming. Thanks. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:47, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've just worked out that this user is the same as Winston88 (talk · contributions) and Tnuctnurgemetib (talk · contributions); the latter was blocked, I think indefinitely. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:01, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've left details on the Incidents page. He's now reverted more than three times (another time since your warning). It might be worth mentioning that I didn't write any of the article in question, incidentally, I've only cleaned up some of the English & style, and added and corrected some of the links — but I expect you'd guessed that.
I have to try to save everything I do at least twice, and sometimes more; Wikipedia is being a real pain at the moment. Do you know what the problem is? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:26, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the message — yes, I'd seen that the edit counter was back, but after one look I recoiled in horror... addiction is too weak a word. As for Ger6, I see that others have arrived to defend the article against him, so I can bow out.
Oh, I reported it on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, as I was more concerned with a banned user coming back with a new account. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Signature

What exact text are you using for the sig? Jayjg (talk) 17:47, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Try [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]]<sup>[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</sup> . Make sure you check the "Raw signatures" box. Jayjg (talk) 18:08, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi Slim

Thanks for message. Will refrain from reverting but can you ensue that Mel also refrains from injecting his abuse into the Oliver North article which reads like it was written by his worst enemy. It is not encyclopedic as Mel Etitis is writing it. He claims to be an Oxford scholar too, he gets an F from me. Ger6 18:13, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Biweekly special article

Dear Fact and Reference Check member. After many months, the biweekly special article has been brought back! The article we will be referencing is Titan (moon). Please do your best to help out! I'm asking all members to verify at least three facts in the article, and I'd really appreciate it if you could try and help with this. We have about 19 members, so if even 3/4 of us try and fulfil this 'dream', that'll be 45 references! If you need some information on how to use footnotes, take a look at Wikipedia:Footnote3, which has a method of autonumbering footnotes. Unfortunately, they produce brackets around the footnotes, but it seems to be our best alternative until they integrate the footnote feature request code into MediaWiki. You may be interested in voting for the aforementioned feature request. Cheers, Frazzydee| 20:03, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Jesus

Oh, sorry about that! I'll be more careful next time. Joyous 02:25, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism

That is amusing...wow, my first user page vandalism as an administrator! I don't know what they'd think—probably more confused than anything else. On a separate note, there seem to be a lot of "block conflicts" recently. — Knowledge Seeker 04:51, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)