User talk:SlimVirgin/Archive 5

Categories

Hi Slim, well I was just looking over Category:Jews and I saw a handful of individuals amid entries like Bukharan Jews, and figured it makes more sense for this info to just be on the much longer and more comprehensice List of Jews. There is also a page for List of Jews by country. Perhaps I should have discussed this first on the category talk, but it seems like lists is pretty much the established convention.--Pharos 22:24, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• I've now put a notice on Category talk:Jews explaining my reasoning and putting it to open question. The individuals categorized were just so random, and the list seems to me like the place to handle it comprehensively. There is of course a link to List of Jews at Jew. Quite a contentious and active article actually, see Talk:List of Jews.--Pharos 22:42, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Style guide and national varieties

Slim, thanks for your note and thanks for removing the EU thing. I hope this comes off the right way to you at least.

For at least the time being, I've taken the page off my watchlist.

To make a long story short (or at least less long), I prefer not to participate in matters that are not cooperative. I agree with you that, shall we say, some people should improve their interpersonal practices, and that people have been handling the style guide edits inconsistently. If issues are going to be decided that way, the style guide will have no weight with me.

Jguk's proposal is at least his third attempt in just a few months to change the style concerning "U.S." and the serial comma. I won't go into detail at the moment, but he should give it a longer rest. And if not, he should at least put up a full draft.

Maybe it would be worthwhile to split out the "national varieties" section from the style guide. Maurreen 10:33, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikiquette alerts

Maybe we can consult on something else together. If you're interested, can you have a look at [[1]]? Ciao. Maurreen 11:04, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Re : User_talk:Wally#El_C

Try User_talk:Sam_Spade#A_Request_from_El_C_and_Myself, your link provides a comment by User:Mel Etitis. Your relationship w El C is downright snuggly BTW, and isn't terribly relevant IMO. If you'd like to see a typical users interaction w myself, try the rest of my talk page, or its archives. (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 22:38, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Conscious evolution

Don't look now, but a supposedly new user has just recreated it as a redirect to Transhumanism. Odd as the ninth edit of a new arrival... He's now kicking up a fuss at Talk:Family as a model for the state. I've posted on the Admin Noticeboard my suspicion that it's Dnagod, getting round his ban, but be aware that even if it's not him, it's another of the same sort (and almost certainly someone we've encountered before in a different guise). Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 00:13, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Heydrich and Eichmann

Re this passage: "The ghettoes would be in cities located on railway junctions, so that, in Heydrich's words, "future measures can be accomplished more easily." At his trial in 1961, Adolf Eichmann testified that the expression "future measures" was understood to mean "physical extermination." and your note to it. The source is Peter Padfield, Himmler: Reichsfuhrer SS (Macmillian 1990), 270. Padfield gives as his source for both the Heydrich quote and Eichmann's comment on it J von Lang and C Sybill (eds) Eichmann Interrogated (Bodley Head, London 1982), 92-93. The reference to Eichmann should probably be changed from "at his trial" to "during his interrogation." Adam 08:17, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Eugenics

Well, the "stupidity" of it is thinking that people are so asleep at the wheel here that they can just insert vulgar revisionism and think that nobody will notice (I love the latest one, that the Germans only sterilized 300 to 400 people, when the Germans themselves proudly noted the thousands upon thousands they operated on). Fortunately everybody has been more or less civil so it seems fairly containable for now—I think after awhile they will just move on to something new. They have a marginal understanding of this history and literature, to say the least, but I suppose that's what you get when you only read work by other revisionists and haven't even bothered to acquaint yourself with the mainstream version you are supposedly going against. Anyway, I appreciate your dedication to the goals of this project in the face of such nonsense. --Fastfission 00:40, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Search and accents

Hi SlimVirgin! How are you weathering the Wiki? A quick question for you, since you seem to know a lot about everything around here. Recently I have been looking at and editing articles on French poets (one of my interests), and I noted that the search facility does not accept "e" (for example) in place of "é". This must be a hindrance to users, since many wouldn't know how to do an "é" at all. Has there been discussion about this? If it isn't fixed, we'll need a huge number of redirects (like Valery -> Valéry, which I added). --Noetica 23:46, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Kolkata/Calcutta

Where did you see question marks? That was unicode encoding (see here:(কলকাতা) )... that is, name of Calcutta in Bengali. Are you using win98 or any other unicode non compliant platform? The things you saw as question marks were the Bengali characters ... I am restoring the Bengali name. Please try to view the page with a Unicode compliant browser. --Ragib 07:36, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I understand the problem with Unicode text not showing up. My own lab computer runs fedora and firefox doesn't show them either. Thanks for your sincere effort in looking for details and the clarification message. If these were actual question marks, the removal would definitely be appropriate. All the best. --Ragib 08:07, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

SlimVirgin, being on MacOS, you are running a "nix"; there should be no dirth of Unicode compliant fonts for you. I am surprised MacOS doesn't itself doesn't have one, actually! The fonts at OmicronLab probably work for Mac, but then again I can't be sure. You can check them out obviously. And please, as a website designer, my personal request, use a W3C standards-compliant browser like Opera (preferred for CSS handling) or Mozilla Firefox (easier plugin installation) - even Safari (browser) would do :)! -- Urnonav 08:14, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC) PS: Your name intrigues me!

My pleasure, honestly! Like most other website designers, I would love to see everyone opt out of those browsers from Hell. (If you don't know what I am talking about, I will not mention it here to avoid being ostracised by the "follow the market" Wikipedians!) Safari is still a project under work. At any rate, I would recommend Firefox, although it is a little more difficult to code for than Opera. (If you couldn't tell, I am in love with that red circle!) How do people come up with names with such fascinating myth; my name just means "spidey" :(. -- Urnonav 08:39, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

MoS

Glad to have been of help; the MoS is in real danger of making itself irrelevant. Filiocht 08:49, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)