User talk:SlimVirgin/Archive 11

Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper. — Robert Frost

ElKabong 3RR

No, it was my fault — I managed to put the report in the wrong place... It's there now. Thanks. I just thought that removing all his personal attacks was the only way left to go. If enough people do it, he might realise that not making them in the first place is less hassle. Well, he might. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:02, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I was going to do it, but it was hard trying to write the report. Plus, I noticed that IP User:129.7.35.205 (Contribs:[2]) were making the same reverts that user ElKabong was doing. Could this be an attempt to circumvent the block? If so, does the block get extended? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 17:19, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

It's ElKabong's IP address and it seems to belong to the University of Houston. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 17:32, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

I think it's clear at this point that ElKabong/KaintheScion's behavior is not going to change. He continues to make personal attacks (look at his contribution history - over half his edit summaries alone have attacks or profanities in them). In addition, he breaks the 3RR on a regular basis despite repeat warnings and blocks. Since other steps in attempting to resolve these issues, including a RFC filed by me, have failed, I intend to take this case to Arbcom if he doesn't cut it out immediately. I've given him a warning to this effect on his Talk page. Would you be willing to participate if this nonsense continues? Firebug 17:25, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Count me in. He has made many personal attacks against my moral character, and I had enough of it. Anything to make him/he/whatever disappear sounds good to me. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 17:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Me too. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 17:32, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the folks at the University of Houston's College of Business would be particularly pleased that their internet service is being used to direct insults and profanities, clearly not an educational purpose. El_C 10:34, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Count me in as well. Jayjg ^(talk) 16:17, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

3RR

Cheers, I was aware, and wasn't going to (personally) press the matter. I did, however, discuss it on IRC. I am not stupid enough to be drawn into Lulu's games. Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 20:27, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Email

Just wondering if you got my email (I don't trust Wikipedia's email system). Guettarda 22:15, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Oops, sorry - I should check the acct linked to my Wikipedia mail first :) Guettarda 22:18, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Pan Am Flight 103

I think what you removed should be included, because we need to know that the people in Lockerbie showed the best as they helped the grieving relatives. SNIyer12

Here's an article to see about the response of Lockerbie: BBC-Reporter's Reflections We can discuss this in another day or two. SNIyer12

Fine, I agree with it. SNIyer12

Islamophobia

Please unprotect Islamophobia page or return it to Zora's last version which was the last agreed by all version. User Yuber came along and decided to try to force his POV so I perhaps incorrectly decided to revert to my own version which existed before Zora's version. There is a consensus for Zora's version . So please unprotect the page or lock in Zora's version.--Fredwall 03:06, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Neofascism_and_religion

I am proposing a redirect from several endlessly contentious pages to a new page: Neofascism_and_religion. The three pages directly affected are Islamofascism, Islamic fascism, and Christian fascism. Any help you can give would be appreciated. :-) I am also posting this to several other folks. --Cberlet 17:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Lulu

Hi. As you were sort of involved on the periphary of our dispute the other day, could you have a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 2 and give your opinion? Thanks, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 17:39, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Vote on policy positions at Government of Australia

I note that Skyring has said that he doesn't intend submitting a proposal for the position this article should adopt on the matters in dispute between him and other uses. I think we can all draw the appropriate conclusions from this. At the expiry of the 24-hour period I gave Skyring yesterday to submit a proposal (10.10am AEST), I will announce a vote at Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board and at Wikipedia:Village pump. Since Skyring has wimped the chance to have his views voted on, the vote will be a straight yes/no on my policy position, which appears below. Amendments or alternative suggestions are of course welcome. I have an open mind on how long the voting period should be and how many votes should be seen as an acceptable participation. I will be posting this notice to the Talk pages of various Users who have participated in this debate.

My proposed policy position is this:

• That in Government of Australia, and in all other articles dealing with Australia's system of government, it should be stated that:

1. Australia is a constitutional monarchy and a federal parliamentary democracy

2. Australia's head of state is Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia

3. Under the Constitution, almost all of the Queen's functions are delegated to and exercised by the Governor-General, as the Queen's representative.

• That any edit which states that (a) Australia is a republic, (b) the Governor-General is Australia's head of state, or (c) Australia has more than one head of state, will be reverted, and that such reversions should not be subject to the three-reversions rule.
• Edits which say that named and relevant persons (eg politicians, constitutional lawyers, judges) disagree with the above position, and which quote those persons at reasonable length, are acceptable, provided proper citation is provided and the three factual statements are not removed. Adam 23:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

69.209.235.212

FYI: This user also vandalized the user page of Jayjg. That page, and your page was reverted by me. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:39, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Rebetika

copy of post left @ User talk:Sam Spade Jpbrenna 04:25, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Ugen

Hi, SlimVirgin,

I've commented on your concerns on Ugen's RfA page. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 04:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

whoops

I didn't look carefully enough when I posted that, I deleted it but left your comment with my apology, you may want to 86 both for clarity. Sorry Sumergocognito 06:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Guttlekraw

Sorry, I could not figure out your email link. I created another account for the purpose of contacting you, and will not use it to edit otherwise untill you block issue has been resolved. I do not understand which part of the 3RR rule I violated, since I thought that I had edited that page only three times. If I am in violation of it, appologies. It was born of frustration with Veriditas, who will not explain on the talk page the reasons for his reversion of my edits. I cannot find any justification for the claim that 'R2D2 has masculine programming' in the Star Wars cannon. Perhaps you can help me to understand this one? Yours, Guttlekraw2 06:30, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

If you go to the "e-mail this user" link in the toolbox to the left of my user page, you can send me an e-mail. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 06:36, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry - I'm a klutz, I can't get that to work. Can we discuss it here? Thank you, Gutlekraw2 07:12, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

What do you mean, you can't get it to work? What happens when you click on it? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 07:14, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

I just tested the e-mail link. It's working. Are you looking in the right place? Look at the box on the left called toolbox, fourth link down. Or you can leave your e-mail address here for me. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 07:19, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I guess it's academic then. Could you help me out on the Veriditas issue? I'm trying to understand him, but I can't get a straight answer on anything. On the R2 issue - I'd be happy to conceed if there was any evidence at all to substantiate his opinion. Any ideas? Guttlekraw 08:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

The Rebetiko Article before I Had Touched it

is here

This is the edit history from that point on.

1. cur) (last) 05:36, 25 May 2005 SlimVirgin m (protect)
2. (cur) (last) 05:35, 25 May 2005 SlimVirgin m (Reverted edits by Jpbrenna to last version by SlimVirgin)
3. (cur) (last) 05:02, 25 May 2005 Jpbrenna (greek spelling, variant transliterations)
4. (cur) (last) 03:13, 25 May 2005 SlimVirgin (added Greek for rebetiko)
5. (cur) (last) 03:10, 25 May 2005 SlimVirgin (rebetika => rebetiko at start)
6. (cur) (last) 13:51, 23 May 2005 Mel Etitis (→Rebetes - some tidying)
7. (cur) (last) 20:31, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna

# (cur) (last) 20:31, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna (page move from rebetiko)

1. (cur) (last) 20:30, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna
2. (cur) (last) 20:29, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna
3. (cur) (last) 20:26, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna (→Rebetes)
4. (cur) (last) 19:48, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna (→Rebetes)
5. (cur) (last) 19:45, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna
6. (cur) (last) 19:39, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna
7. (cur) (last) 19:36, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna
8. (cur) (last) 07:53, 22 May 2005 Jpbrenna

The spot where it's bolded is the pagemove. At that point, I decided that the article content belonged at rebetika, and decided to move. Usually, I use the "Move" button at the top. I couldn't do that here without breaking the redirect first, which I did. I can't remember for sure, but I'm guessing that I just selected everything I was already editing straight from the preview box and dumped it onto the blank rebetika edit box that was open in front of me. Bad move. I think that's what erased the edit history. I'll remember to always use the "Move" button in future, which as I said, I usually do.

Rebetiko

Was there really a need to protect the article? I couldn't see any sign (or imminent threat) of edit warring. As you probably saw on the Talk page, there are lots of things that need to be added to and corrected on the page, and it's going to be a pain if they can't be started on. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'd thought that you'd thought that there was going to be a war over the name. I hope that there isn't; the music is universally called "rebetika" rather than the singular "rebetiko" (it's a bit like listing the blues uunder "blue"). Well, we'll see what happens. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:08, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Mr Tan

I think that that's all. I deleted the Zanskar one a while ago. he's kept surprisingly quiteabout the move (though he's just added another incomprehensible section to the RfC on him...). Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:19, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Asking for help

I am asking for help as I am running out of options. User:Veriditas is continually reverting almost everything I do, and refusing to discuss it on the talk page. I don't know how to respond to this, because he simply won't explain what he is doing. It looks to me like he is pushing a pretty extreme agenda at the expense of other points of view, but I'm willing to try to see it from the other side. In the past you've commented on this issue, and I need your help if you have a few minutes. Thank you, Guttlekraw3 06:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Why?

I do not understand why you move Wee Kim Wee/temp to User:Mr Tan/Wee Kim Wee. See [3] for example. I will move it back then, and ask User:JMBell for his reasons.

Tan 14:26, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

I did not say that I did not allow; I'm only discouraging because of the "safety" matters. Please do not move the article unnecessarily.

Tan 14:40, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Allright, I have witnessed the case in User:JMBell's case of Zossen. Mel Etitis has also objected on the {inuse} template. Sorry for any misunderstanding caused.

Anyway, you may unprotect and delete off Wee Kim Wee/temp; promise me; I will not move it again. I promise.

Also, I would like to extend my thanks to the admin who deleted my user page. That is all I have to say.

Tan 15:26, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

RFAr against User:KaintheScion and associated socks

Since KaintheScion has not changed his abusive behavior and has created another sockpuppet (User:Enviroknot), I have now requested arbitration against him. Firebug 16:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

hello?

You bloked my IP because of something to do with Oliver North, but I have never posted there? Please help.

Bernard Williams

I was unsure about this. When I searched, I found pretty well equal evidence for both, but I felt that the sites using "Knightsbridge" were on the whole (very slightly) more trustworthy than those using "Knightbridge". Given that it was an unexplained change by an anon to a featured article, I thought it safest to revert until there was some conclusive evidence. I've e-mailed a friend who's a philosopher at Cambridge, but he's nototriously slow at replying (and if it's anything like Oxford, he'll be snowed under with work); I'll let you know as asoon as I hear back. Oddly, I didn't check in books (what is the Internet doing to me?); the only one that mentions his chair by name gives it as "Knightbridge", so I suppose we should stick with that for the moment ("print before screen"). Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 07:37, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

(Kid) Ravemaster speaks

hey! you tried to block me but it didnt work haha! but now i wont put wikipedia in my website

talk to me; IM: kidravemaster

email: kidravemaster@aol.com

Maharashtra

I don't have any problems regarding the page hosted in my namespace. Frankly, I don't see an difference in which namespace the article lies as its shelf life is usually short (this case is an exception). I agree that it may be my personal draft, but I encourage comments made on the talk page. The Maharashta article is not a high visibility article, that's why I haven't received any comments on the talk page. After editing I usually throw it open to other editors to copyediting. Only then do I copy the same text to the main article and delete the old. I guess that you must have also read User:ALoan's comments in the Village Pump. That said and done, I am open to editing in my user space in the future. Regards,  =Nichalp (Talk)= 06:27, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

John Birch Society

I have no desire to start editing it, but do you think it's time to unprotect John Birch Society? —Sean κ. + 19:13, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Nice user page

and talk page, nicely designed. Why the protection though? Have you had trouble? Dan100 11:06, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

It does need more cats though. A lot more cats! El_C 11:57, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee case opening

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KaintheScion et al. has been accepted and is now open. Please bring evidence to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/KaintheScion et al./Evidence. Thank you. -- sannse (talk) 18:41, 31 May 2005 (UTC)