Talk:Slipknot's 4th studio album

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Article milestones
November 28, 2007 Articles for deletion Kept
To-do list for Slipknot's 4th studio album: edit · history · watch · refresh

Here are some tasks you can do:


Contents

[edit] Style

I know the album's not out yet, but the band has reassured us in multiple interviews that this will be their heaviest album to date, and will include thrash-metal riffing and more guitar solos. I read this in Revolver Magazine. And, knowing Slipknot, there will probably still be a little nu/alt metal. Dark Executioner (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

[edit] Producer

Still no word on who it's gonna be yet? Dark Executioner (talk) 18:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Yeah, Blabbermouth said it's Dave Fortman. [1] Rezter TALK 07:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Rezter, I just added that to the page. Wow, who would've guessed him? Dark Executioner (talk) 16:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Dark Executioner

[edit] Release Date

The user at IP: 70.105.209.59 has deleted the release date of August 11, claiming that Kerrang! Magazine made it up to boost sales. He cites the official forums, on which the best thing I can find is "ALBUM RELEASE DUE APPROX JULY/AUGUST. (no way of knowing exactly when just yet...obviously)". This is the second time that he has made this revision. Kerrang! as far as I know is a legit source. Due to the fact that both Kerrang! and the official forums say sometime in August, I see no reason why it should not be left as August 11; when the official site confirms, or changes this date, it can easily be corrected. But until that time it should be listed as August 11 because 1) Kerrang is a reliable source and 2) The offical site does not contradict the release date. Please do not remove the date again, until it is further discussed here. Thank you. Blackngold29 (talk) 04:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, HMV.co.uk also has the same release date. I think that HMV wouldn't annoucne a release date unless they recieved it from a source clsoe to the band. [2] REZTER TALK ø 13:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
From Opium of the People: "According to HMV.co.uk, Roadrunner Records has set an August 11 UK release date (one day later in the U.S.) for the much-anticipated new SLIPKNOT album." This is only a fansite, but they seem to confirm that HMV is pretty certain about the release date. Perhaps the US release date should be added? Blackngold29 (talk) 02:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I looked on an article on mtvnews.com about the rockstar mayhem tour, and they say that the album is coming out in the spring. I don't know whether to trust them or not, but i think we should put it up.Down with the (sic)ness (talk) 22:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
The current source is this: [3] which includes an interview with guitarist Mick Thomson who says they are expecting it to be released in September, which is probably one of the best sources I think you can have. REZTER TALK ø 11:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree, the statement from the band said that the only good word is that which is directly from the band. Blackngold29 (talk) 17:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I shouldn't even have to be discussing the release date in the article's Infobox here because the change I made reflects exactly what were your last words, Blackngold29. Directly from the band, Mick Thompson's word was the the album would probably see a September release, so is that no longer the best source for its release? After all, HMV and other online retailers do tend to make mistakes (take Amazon for an example. Good site, but it still lists Dope's upcoming album No Regrets as released on June 10 (today), despite that the its been delayed until further announcement, and therefore the date listed is unreliable). Not only that, but both the UK and US August release dates' sources are the same website, which is European, and so why is it the source for the American release date as well? Not to mention having the release date information reading as it does in the Infobox is very unencyclopedic, there can't be "Unconfirmed: Possible date, date, date." Stick with that which is most reliable. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 01:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

That's true. I think it should say something like a "tentative release date" since it isn't quite official word yet. You have my support to change it to September.
I sometimes act too quickly when people change large amounts of info without discussing, since there's vandalism all the time. Thanks! Blackngold29 02:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah no problem, it just frustrates me when people revert justified edits. I fight vandalism just as much as you guys and I want for this article to be as reliable as possible. I should probably include edit summaries more often lol. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 02:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Splash Teasers section

I changed the "Possible Artwork" section's name to "Splash teasers" since there is more mention to the splash teasers instead of artwork. It is nothing but hype. It has not yet been confirmed to be artwork so for now, we'll call the section "Slash Teasers" until more is known about the teasers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homie C (talk • contribs) 23:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Splash teasher dates

There has been somewhat of an editing war over whether they've been up every nine or ten days. When actually it has been nine (10th to the 18th) the new one was up on the 19th (Displayed for nine days, new one added on the tenth). Either way, the pattern is not followed 9 days - 3 days - 9 days - 9 days. It would seem that they are trying for every nine (obviously to match the nine members), however the 3 day one threw it off. If the plan is followed the next one should be up tomorrow (May 9). In any case, I am not sure that it is notable. It is interesting, but there is no way of confirming that the update every nine days is related to anything. I say we eliminate the sentence all together. It seems silly to argue over it now, when it's gonna most likely be removed or changed after the album is released anyway. Blackngold29 15:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I agree; I added the sentence in the first place (not realizing that it was actually every nine days, generally), but I do get what you're saying. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of splash teasers

I believe that we should list the splash teasers in order of their release instead of bunching them up in paragraph form. It will make the section (and the page) look neater and much more easier to read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homie C (talk • contribs) 19:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Summer release...

I feel that it is unsourced because it is not stated that the album will (1) be called "all hope is lost" and (2) that the word "Summer" refers to the album itself. It could be the albums release, but it could also be referring to the upcoming tour, or perhaps the first single off the album. Until a source can be found that states the album itself will be released this summer, it should remain as it was before. Even if it does mean the album will be released this summer the possible August dates already listed are in the late summer. Blackngold29 05:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "All Hope is Gone"

This is NOT a splash teaser, just a picture on their MySpace. Do not call it a splash teaser unless it is shown as one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homie C (talk • contribs) 18:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I have merged it with the section, but renamed it "Splash teasers and posters". After the album's release I doubt very much of that info will remain anyway. Blackngold29 05:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Track listing

Why was this added? It is cited to "Slipknot-metal" which is a fan site and an un-reliable source. I understand that the info was taken from Revolver magazine, but even the article states: "Please note at this time, nothing is 100% official until the album is ready to release". Since its addition, it has been subject to numerous vandalism and false tracks. I think the listing should be removed, until the issue of Revolver (which is a reliable source) is released? Blackngold29 14:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I think when that person said nothing is completely official he meant not to take the titles as anything more than tentative. The issue of Revolver should be out now though, I saw one at the store a couple of days ago but I didn't pick it up to scan for any Slipknot coverage. I just remember Disturbed is on the front page, promoting Indestructible. But as for the latter three additions to the track listing, what is the source for these ones? Vixen Windstorm (talk) 17:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Opium of the People (another fan site, but pretty reliable from what I've seen) has pretty much the whole article here. It includes the extra track names. I would still prefer to see the actual magazine before citing it though; I'm sure someone will scan it and have it online soon. Blackngold29 18:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Just so you guys know, the Revolver issue with Disturbed is on the front is the July issue, the one with the Slipknot album preview is the August issue. REZTER TALK ø 19:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)