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[edit] League of Copyeditors

I'm very sorry I haven't had a chance to welcome you earlier, I have been incredibly busy lately. We are glad to have your help. Currently, we have really cut down the backlog of articles in need of copyedit. Therefore, a major goal at this moment is to identify new articles that are in need of work. When you run across them, be sure to tag them for copyediting.

If you have any questions at all, do not hesitate to drop me a line. Trusilver 16:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opus quadratum

Thanks for your edits, particularly "in addition to" - I knew what I'd put wasn't quite right but couldn't think of the right phrase. I still contend that "centred" is correct, but that's because I speak en-gb. It's not important enough that I'd go changing it back though. Thanks once again — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim,}^dagnabbit!) 18:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Saw a few more edits. Thanks. Yes, the wording is much better now. It's interesting, I was thinking that if I'd not made the effort to try and get it there, it might still be in its bad babelfished version. However, even though I didn't make it perfect, my improvements gave someone else the impetus to make it an even better article. I really like how this works! — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim,}^dagnabbit!) 19:19, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Xavier (name)

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[edit] Copy and paste move

Hello, SlackerMom. It appears that you copied and pasted Xavier to [[{{{2}}}]]. Please do not move articles by copying and pasting them because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself using the move link at the top of the page, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you, The Evil Spartan 21:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The Evil Spartan 21:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello – thanks for the message. Cut-and-paste moves are especially difficult to fix when a dab page was made from the original. You can view the step-by-step process here, but the CliffsNotes version is that when we admins merge the histories, first we have to delete the whole thing, then we undelete certain revisions. To do that, we have to go through by hand to see which page version belongs with what article, then check a box next to each one. In Xavier's case, the history was somewhere around 150 revisions – but fortunately, it was made into a dab page rather recently, so it wasn't too terrible. If you have questions about that kind of stuff, ask me or any other admin, or just wave the ol' {{helpme}} flag. And remember – very few things around here get screwed up or deleted permanently, so don't be afraid to be bold! :-) - KrakatoaKatie 02:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Xavier High Schools

Hmm, I see what you mean. I thought about moving it to List of secondary schools named after Francis Xavier, but that name's unwieldy and you'd still have to scroll through a sea of redlinks. What number of enrolled students do you think makes a high school notable enough for Wikipedia? I realize there are other ways a school can be notable, but maybe we can move the smaller schools onto Talk:St. Xavier High School until someone comes along and writes an article about them. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 04:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scrapbooking

I keep watch over scrapbooking because of an incidental interest in how "ordinary" people have recorded things and used books and writing. I don't think that any of the folks who put up most of the material in the article have very much interest in a truly encyclopedic approach. Nor am I sure that there are very good secondary sources. The article on Commonplace books gets at an aspect of the subject, but scrapbooking as we think of it probably depends on the abundance of cheap paper, cheap printed material like newspapers, and, eventually, photographs; which makes Victorian England a highly likely site. I've read a bit about keeping diaries and don't find much in that literature about scrapbooking either. DCDuring 13:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

There are two or three strands that I'm aware of for going a bit farther back to understand how folks kept track of the memories of their personal lives;

hypomnema-a classical Greek artifact/practice that reminded me of commonplace books
diaries-typically more female
ancient memory aids

There is a lot of literature/research on "orality," which included how ancient cultures preserved themselves. I'm still looking for evidence of the first personal to-do list. DCDuring 18:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nit/NIT

Thanks for the feedback :) Propaniac 19:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Veropedia

Hi there. You've been doing some really awesome work here - I took a peek :) Would you be interested in the Veropedia project; fixing and improving articles for upload to vero? If you're interested in an account there, just let me know and I can sort it out for you! - Alison ^❤ 01:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] questionnaire?

This edit seems a very bad choice. I've changed it to [[statistical survey|survey]]. -- Michael Hardy (talk) 22:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. See my answer here - SlackerMom (talk) 21:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chris Smith (driver)

SlackerMom: noticed you recently connected a link from the two Bathurst 24 Hour races to this driver. Can you confirm this American driver raced these Australian races? There was an Australian based driver with that name and I do not believe it to be the same person. --Falcadore (talk) 11:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Nope, I cannot confirm that. I linked to Chris Smith (driver) based on assumption only. I have been trying to remove links to Chris Smith, which is a disambiguation page, and I'm sure I often make mistakes. There are apparently far more Chris Smith's in the world than anyone could hope to keep straight, so I appreciate your catching this one. There a few options to correct this. We could: 1-delink Chris Smith in the Bathurst 24 Hour race articles (better then linking to the wrong person), 2-create a redlink such as Chris Smith (Australian driver), or something similar, if we think an article should/will someday exist for this person. What do you think? SlackerMom (talk) 13:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Christ Church

I don't see your recent edits to the above as improving. Rather they seem to complicate it. Christ Church Grammar School for instance is not a church. You are changing format that is used for most POWdis pages. Before I undo your edits, I would like to discuss this with you and try to reach some consensus. clariosophic 20:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC) As a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, I can tell you that Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin is not in the UK. clariosophic 20:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Oooh, I am so sorry! Of course, you're right, we'll have to move that one! My mistake. Thanks for not reverting...I'd much rather work together with someone who cares about the page. I did put the Grammar School link under Educational Institutions, rather than churches, although you may have looked at an intermediate edit, so that should solve that one. I haven't worked on POWdis pages before, although I have done lots of regular dab pages, so please let me know how else you think this could be improved. My reason for the changes to begin with was that the page was far too long and unwieldy and contained too many red links. I also am trying to improve the related pages Christchurch (disambiguation) and Christ Church Cathedral, although I haven't done much to those yet. Do you have much experience with the POWdis pages? I do have some questions. SlackerMom 20:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I've been trying to simplify these pages by merging them when possible so that there's one disambig page for most variants. For churches in the United States, it's important to separate them by States. Many of them are listed in the National Register of Historic Places and are linked from the article lists for the states and and D.C. Individual listings there will show blue because they are linked to the disambig page. Someone looking for an article will go to the disambig page and if they want to create an article, that page should give them some help on how to name it. If redlinks are a problem, it's better on the disambig page just to delete the links and show them in black. Washington, D.C., for example. I created both articles. There are 2 Christ Churches, both Episcopal, in Washington. The List of Registered Historic Places in the District of Columbia originally just had Christ Church listed. Whoever put it in did not realize that there are 2 churches by that name in D.C. Another problem in the Us is multiple cities with the same name in different states, so XYZ place of worship Springfield won't tell you much because many states have a city by that name and no one of them is really better known that the others. Christ Church or Christchurch is unusual in that there are many geographical places with that name, as well as churches, cathedrals and other institutions. Thee geographical ones whould be in a separate disamig page. The cathedrals also. The schools etc, aren't that many so why not keep the here and just merge them in by location. On other names such as Church of Our Saviour, there are smaller numbers to work with and I was able to combine all the known variants into one place. Best wishes. clariosophic 21:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, most of that sounds great, but here are my questions...First, this doesn't really seem to follow the guidelines for disambig pages, which are supposed to be used for navigation of existing articles, not as lists of articles that need to be created. In my opinion, those churches on the NR should be included in the list articles as red links, but should only be on the dab page if an article currently exists, or the church is mentioned in an existing article (such as Springfield, Missouri). This is the way I understand the current disambiguation page guidelines. I think the long list of U.S. state name headings is unnecessary, but basically harmless, so I don't mind if those are put back. Secondly, keeping the POWdis tag on the Christ Church page isn't really accurate since it (currently) contains five non-church entries. You said the geographical entries should be on a separate page, but what would you call it? And how would the user find it? I'm a fan of clarity, and my preference would be that there be one dab page for everything known as "Christ Church" and another dab page for everything known as "Christchurch" with no overlap (except for cross links in "See also"). Of course, we also have Christ Church Cathedral to deal with...but that's probably another day. SlackerMom 21:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Christchurch (disambiguation) is really the geographical one. It is in the Se also section in this article. If you want to keep this one just for POWs, then let's move all the schools, hospitals, etc., to the other. Just remember that some of them are related. The civil parish in Barbados also has a church by that name in it. Christ Church Cathedral in Oxford is located on the campus of Christ Church College and is its chapel.

I understand what you're saying on policies, however, you're running into conflicts with policies and/or practices from other projects such as the NR. See List of Registered Historic Places in the District of Columbia again, which is typical of the NR lists. You'll see plenty of red. This is where the articles come from. Look at Church of the Ascension and you'll see blue.. You would think there is an article on the church in D.C., but there isn't. It's a link to the POWdis page. The task of going back and correcting every single link link that in all the NR lists would be monumental and won't probably be strongly opposed. Usually when a real article is created, they want you to pipe it. I didn't do that at the 2 Christ Churches in DC because that wasn't possible to do with only one listing there. If there had actually only been one, someone would have piped it for. So if I created the article "Church of the Ascension (Washington, D.C.)" and linked it that way in the list article, someone would surely pipe it to "Church of the Ascension (Washington, D.C.)|Church of the Ascension". On the red links in the US, I will change them to black and put a (NR) after each one with at note under the United States section listing as to what that means. If yoy want some idea of the number, look at "what links here" on a POWdis page. I'm getting tired and have to quit for a while. One addition, remember that Christchurch, New Zealand is an important place clariosophic 22:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congregation Mickve Israel

On Congregation Mickve Israel, I left a comment on the talk page. I'll be glad to work with you to weave the National Register listing into the article. Here is an example of where the Georgia listings in Wikipedia don't even list the congregation and the National Park service website lists it, but instead of giving the usual info, just says: "in Savannah??". If it weren't for the picture of the actual plaque on the website, I wouldn't have even bothered to check it out. As you probably know, the National register listing is important because it assures the notability of the article. clariosophic 21:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks on MS

I absolutely agree with the removal of the image. I'm biding my 24 hours before making another overhaul of the page in accordance with WP:MOSDAB (probably using this version as a base), since Abtract has accused me of 3RR violation before I remake any of my earlier edits. I just didn't want you to think that my attempts at interim cleanup were full endorsements of the poor shape the page is currently in. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] League of Copyeditors roll call

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The League's services are in as high demand as ever, as evinced by the increasing backlog on our requests pages, both old and new. While FA and GA reviewers regularly praise the League's contributions to reviewed articles, we remain perennially understaffed. Fulfilling requests to polish the prose of Wikipedia's highest-profile articles is a way that editors can make a very noticeable difference to the appearance of the encyclopedia. On behalf of the League, if you do consider yourself to have left, I hope you will consider rejoining; if you consider yourself inactive, I hope you will consider returning to respond to just one request per week, or as many as you can manage. Merry Christmas and happy editing, The League of Copyeditors.

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[edit] Disambiguation opinion

Hey, since you were involved with the discussion on the [City High School (City, State)] issue, I was wondering what your option on this topic? --Dan Leveille^TALK 06:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My workaround

Hi SlackerMom: After the new system at LoCE was in place, I found it helpful to put all the instructions and my own shortcuts on my user pages for quick reference. This has worked well for me with few glitches. You're welcome to visit User:Finetooth/desk and cut-and-paste the code to your user page or anywhere you like. I feel certain that the articles you are proofreading from the old pile should be dealt with in the same way as the ones in the new pile. Glad to see you are back. I noticed that you were gone for a while. Finetooth (talk) 16:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Backlog at WP:LOCE/P

Hi there, and thanks for giving the old backlog some of the attention it deserves. I'm not entirely sure what to do with the old requests - part of me thinks that most of them are old enough to be completely worthless, but part of me feels it would be a failure on the League's part not to do something about them when we have advertised our help, and editors have in good faith requested that help. I'm going to run up a quick script soon (I'm incredibly busy with RL atm) to check through all the old requests for those that don't meet our new criteria, particularly the one about cleanup tags. I don't know how many articles that will remove. I'll have to see how many that leaves us before I get off the fence vis avis whether they should all be dumped. I am leaning towards it! Happy‑melon 19:22, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

One other note: I wouldn't archive requests from WP:LOCE/P that weren't acted on - just delete them if there's a reason to deny them. If they were copyedited by the League, then of course do note that by archiving. Happy‑melon 19:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Geography of Saskatchewan

Thank you for the comment on behalf of the League of Copyeditors. I have entered the article for a Good Article Nomination, and hopefully I can drop you a word or two to let you know of the results, so that the fine work that you'se do can truly be appreciated, not only by myself, but by those who will review the article. Thank you again, and all the editors involved in helping out!! SriMesh | talk 19:42, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wow!

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		For truly outstanding work in clearing the backlog at the League of Copyeditor's old requests system. Happy‑melon 11:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] St Agnes

Hi, are you sure that redirecting St Agnes and St. Agnes to Saint Agnes was the right thing to do? There are at least 4 Saints called Agnes, as well as the various places, and I feel that having them link to the disambiguation page was a better arrangement. DuncanHill (talk) 13:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm open to a discussion about it. It seemed to me, while fixing links to the dab page, that the majority were related to the primary article, but there really aren't that many links altogether, so we could change it back if you think it would be better. I think, most of the time, when an editor links St. Agnes, the intention is Saint Agnes, rather than one of the other choices, but either way is fine if you disagree. SlackerMom (talk) 13:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

In my experience, they often mean St Agnes, Cornwall - of course I do most of my editing on Cornish subjects so that may colour my view! To me, one of the advantages of having St Agnes and St. Agnes pointing to the disambig page is that it is much easier to find misdirected links from the "what links here" on the disambig page (usually quite a short list - I check it periodically) than by trawling through the much longer list at Saint Agnes. DuncanHill (talk) 14:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I can understand that. I'm happy for you to move them back. If you don't have time, I'll do it later. SlackerMom (talk) 14:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

OK cool - I should have time tonight to do them. Thanks for being so understanding - and thanks also for fixing the links I hadn't (I'm pretty good at spotting when they should point to the Cornish town, but my knowledge of saints is pretty slim!) All the best, DuncanHill (talk) 14:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

I hate it when I repeat myself redundantly--thanks for the quick fix.:-)--NapoliRoma (talk) 15:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Consider it my free gift to you as a fellow comrade. SlackerMom (talk) 17:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Christ Church (Guilford, Vermont)

Hi, your last change to this article changed a direct link to Christ Church to one that went through a redirect. I have changed it back, since a direct link is preferable. BTW, it is supposed to be good form in See also to add {disambiguation) AFTER a link that does not include it. Best wishes. clariosophic (talk) 23:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Undid Clariosphic's undo. No, direct links are not preferable. Please see WP:D#Links to disambiguation pages for using (disambiguation) redirects, and WP:R#NOTBROKEN for not preferring direct links "just because" in general. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I guess you don't need me! Thanks JHJ. Clariosophic, I agree about adding (disambiguation) after a link that does not include it, but as you can see, the redirect is better here. It helps dab editors like me to keep the disambiguation page free of unintentional links. SlackerMom (talk) 13:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anna (name)

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[edit] Priory of Sion copyedit request

Hello SlackerMom. In light of your "interest" in the Jesus bloodline article, would you be interested in copyediting the Priory of Sion article? --Loremaster (talk) 19:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do over the next week or so. That's the best I can promise right now, so if you are looking for quicker work, I apologize. I squeeze copyediting into the small spaces in my real life (which isn't always the best way to copyedit). I also assume you are looking to nominate this article, and while I'm a crack proofreader, I don't know if my criticisms will be as "editorial" as might be needed. I'll give it a shot. SlackerMom (talk) 20:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool. --Loremaster (talk) 20:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I've radically improved the Jesus bloodline article so you might also want to take a look at that again. --Loremaster (talk) 20:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)