Talk:Sky Blue Sky

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[edit] Arbitrary section header

I made a few changes; if anybody is opposed, please discuss here! :-)

  • Added the genre of alternative country.
  • Capitalization should in the songs "You are My Face" and "Please Be Patient with Me" (see Wikipedia's rules)
  • Added wiki-links for individual band members—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr ethanboy (talk • contribs)
"You Are My Face" is the correct capitalization. Teemu08 00:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Call me crazy, but can we at least hear the album before we designate it as "alternative country?" MWB1138 00:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
It should be noted that iTunes has begun delivering the pre-ordered copies of this cd. Jbklego 23:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

dvd

someone should add something to do with the limited edition cd/dvd version.

[edit] DYK

Why the hell is this on the Main Page as part of DYK? The article was far larger than a stub (though, obviously, not nearly as substantial) before this week. -- Kicking222 01:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article nomination on hold

This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of July 3, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Overall well written. But there are some nitpicky issues that need to be resolved first. The list is long, but almost entirely minor.
  • "announced at January 17, 2007" should be "announced on January 17, 2007"
  • "mostly favorable yet mixed reviews" is confusing. Mostly favorable implies there was some negativity. There's no need to say mixed, as that implies a toss-up.
  • I think the word "remonstration" is a litte too strong for an album. It would describe more of a reaction towards abortion or gay marriage.
  • This sentence: "Glenn Kotche first reported that the band was recording material for the album in May 2006." should begin the paragraph (for chronological reasons)
  • This sentence: "where Tweedy had recorded Born Again in the USA with Loose Fur and the majority of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" is confusing, and seems to imply that the album Born Again in teh USA was recorded with Loose Fur and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. I would put "with Loose Fur" in parentheses.
  • "The band was looking" grammar issues, try "wanted" or "sought"
  • Change "Tweedy attributes this..." This what? This album? This sound? This change? The prounoun "this" has no clear antecedent, so it's a tad confusing. Please clarify.
  • Change "Tweedy disliked" to "he liked." A pronoun would be less redundant here.
  • "effects on previous albums:[7]" - move the inline citation after the quote
  • If I'm not mistaken, this is the preferred place to put a citation using the cquote template. Ref tags can't be placed within the template, and it would look strange to have it hanging alone a line under the quote. Teemu08
  • "many of the songs were recorded one day at a time" - This isn't saying what you mean. It should read "many of the songs were recorded in only one day."
  • "were chosen to appear on the album" redundant (album twice in one sentence) change to "were actually chosen."
  • The second half of this sentence is grammatically off:

In addition, the outtake "Let's Not Get Carried Away" was included with iTunes digital downloads, while some albums shipped to independent record stores with an EP featuring outtake "One True Vine" and a live version of "Theologians" that was not used on Kicking Television.

Read it out loud and you'll see the problem.

  • Change "Wilco had previous licensed" to "Wilco had previously licensed"
  • This phrase "— although VW erroneously commented in its press release that it was the first licensing deal for the band" has continuity issues, since up to this point, the reader doesn't really know that they had liscensed to Volkswagen. Even though it is mentioned in the lead, the body of the article should work independently of the summary. I would either make this a note, or somehow include it later int eh paragraph.
  • Take out "Sky Blue Sky" in the sentence "commercials with Sky Blue Sky track" (it makes an already long sentence more clogged up needlessly)
  • This sentence doesn't read well:

The band licensed six songs for the campaign, which was created by Crispin Porter and Bogusky for VW because of the failure of the previous campaign (shouting "three VWs for under $17,000").

  • "beginning on June 13, 2007" should be in commas
  • "the band will tour" will get outdated quickly. Instead, say "the band then made plans to tour"
  • "and the following week became " should read "and the following week it became"
  • "received a varied" - remove "a"
  • The subheading "Lyrical themes" I found to be anticlimatic and kind of regurgitating information already said. I would merge the first paragraph with the "Recording" section, and them merge the second paragraph with the "Release and reception" subheading.
2. Factually accurate?: Wonderful and thorough use of references. Nice formatting for the references (although posting/publish dates should technically follow the arthur's name. It's only done in this article sometimes.)
I'm at the mercy of the citenews template here. Teemu08
3. Broad in coverage?: Nice here as well.
4. Neutral point of view?: Excellent.
5. Article stability? Good.
6. Images?: Great.

Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. — Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 17:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I've fixed everything that you have pointed out. Teemu08 20:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I am promoting this article. It reads much better than the last go around, and really is solid overall - I congratulate the editors. But there are still a few nagging things that should be addressed, and definitely before becoming a FA.
  • "both disdain and praise" - disdain is still too strong a word. I would say "harsh critique" or something similar.
  • "Also unlike the..." - There needs to be a comma after "Also"
  • I would move the paragraph that begins "Unlike previous Wilco albums,..." to just after (or just merge it) with the paragraph that begins "Many of the album's songs were recorded..." Both passages discuss the songs, and should be together.
Again, congratulations!--Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 21:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
This article also needs a personnel section per WP:ALBUM#Personnel and WP:ALBUMA. --PEJL 15:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyedit

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  • Copyeditor(s): Cricketgirl 03:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Proofreader: Gprince007 09:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Sky Blue?

I downloaded a torrent a while ago that contained a two-disc set of Sky Blue Sky that included a second disc with the following tracks (absolutely not to be taken at face value—this was whatever the person who tagged it labeled it as):

  1. "The Thanks I Get" – 3:34
  2. "Let's Not Get Carried Away" – 4:12
  3. "One True Vine" – 2:11
  4. "Impossible Germany" (Live) – 6:07
  5. "Hate It Here" (Live) – 4:32

It was labeled as a the second disc (the first one was exactly the same as the one mentioned on the page) from the tour edition of Sky Blue Sky, with the two-disc set having the title of Blue Sky Blue. I know nothing else at the moment. → ɧʒЖχ (ГДĽК • КОИГЯІВ) 07:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

  • That's the European Tour EP that's mentioned in the text of the article. "Blue Sky Blue" is probably a fan name for the EP, so I'm not going to add it as a name unless its confirmed by the band. Teemu08 (talk) 07:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)