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The alliance calls itself SkyTeam, not SkyTeam Alliance. Star is the only one of the three with "Alliance" in the title. Dbinder 21:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

China Southern Airlines is a future member, too. How do you edit the boilerplate to include it? --apoivre 12:36, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Why hasn't Alitalia been removed rom the alliance due to its piss-poor customer service? - Sentiments of nummerous FlyerTalkers

There's rumours that Air France wants Thai to join the alliance instead of Malaysian? Do they have any connection to the truth?

A wikipedia talk page is probably not the best place to ask this. However, AF recently agreed to admit MH into the alliance so there you go: apoivre 19:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

How someone determined that now Skyteam is the third largest following Oneworld? I compared the figures and don't understand why Onewold is the second. 31 Mar 2007

Contents 1 Members section 2 Potential Future Members 3 China Airlines - Potential Future Member 4 Wikify 5 Potential Future Members 6 Some news (and help needed)

[edit] Members section

that is one of the most confusing/jumbled sections i have ever seen. its not neat and well organized. i mean, if your flying northwest your flying with the company that operates for it i.e. mesaba airlines. duh. this is just ridiculus... Urban909

[edit] Potential Future Members

User XLR8TION has repeatedly tried to insert Alaska Airlines, Emirates and several other airlines into the section on potential membership. While it would be very nice for any ST frequent flyer to have EK in, they have repeatedly stated they are not going to join any alliance yet. And while it would be very nice for any ST frequent flier living or working in the West Coast to have AS in, word is this is just not going to happen any time soon. The potential future memebers section is not about who we would like to see in the alliance, it's about who said they want to join or are rumoured to be in negotiations with the alliance.

If you're going to continually state that this section includes airlines rumored to be in negotiations, you should not include a requirement to state a source. Rumors generally cannot be substantiated because they are usually based on information that is not public knowledge. Incidentally, Hawaiian Airlines WAS in active negotiations with Delta Airlines for a codeshare agreement but it was put on hold because of Delta's bankruptcy filing. I know this for a fact because I used to work for the airline and was a part of the team preparing for the alliance. As for Hawaiian joining skyteam, this is based on hallway conversations that obviously cannot be cited as an official source and fall into that troublesome category of rumors. So, my advice would be to remove the "rumoured" part altogether and only allow additions with confirmations from one of the parties involved in negotiations. To continue as you are now is contradictory and confusing. Alenag25 (talk) 15:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Alenag25

I'd like to invite user XLR8TION to back up his claims with facts/references here on the Talk page before s/he makes any further edits in the article (which will be the third revert and, thus, would call for action from mods). If I may suggest a good place to start, FlyerTalk SkyTeam branch has lots of links and quite a lot of posters over there are very well informed. (In case anyone is interested, my handle on FT is the same as here). I'd also like to point out that having a frequent-flyer relationship with a full/associate or potential ST member does not automatically qualify an airline for inclusion in the list -- you can earn SkyMiles on Singapore Airlines, so what?--apoivre 23:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Edited to add: Judging by his/her talk page, user XLR8TION is already familiar with the three-reverts rule [1] and no-original-research policy [2]:--apoivre 23:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

As I had mentioned, Portugalia became a member on June 2nd. El Al and Air Jamaica have been invited to past Skyteam events, such as a Skyteam pilots convention held in Jamaica in 2001 ( http://www.dalpa.com/public/releases/2001/0010405.htm ). This is strong proof that Air Jamaica and El AL already have indicated interest in joining an alliance, mainly Skyteam. As for Emirates, the airline announced they have no interest of joining any alliance in a press release, therefore they can be removed from the list of potential members. However EL AL and Air Jamaica should be added --XLR8TION 01:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] China Airlines - Potential Future Member

Any new updates regarding China Airlines becoming a SkyTeam member? --Starcity ai 04:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• I am afraid that I don't have many updates in "Eglish" now. But I do have a lot in Chinese([[3]]) now.One particular is that their present chairperson Wei, Philip Hsing-Hsiung(魏幸雄) expressed their interest([[4]]) to Taiwanese Journalists in many ocaasions during the 2003-2004, and that was when they started the code-sharing arrangement with Delta. These news have been reported again and again. And almost every aviation-lover (Please forgive me for my poor English. I don't know how to modify a person who loves aviation, but I think you could understand me)who have keep an eye on the Great China Region know it. Another obvious attestation is the latest issue of Airway Magzine(世界民航雜誌),No.117, which is the most authoritative magzine of Chinese-speaking world. In the Editorial, they discussed about the stiuation of Taiwanese carriers' joining the Intrenational alliances, and they mentioned about CAL's interest in joining SkyTeam.(on p.10,the last sentence of fifth paragraph) I am afriad that I am not be able to upload the image of the magzine. But it can be bought in Taiwan and Hong Kong.There are also many reports that reprot this issue. You can easily find it on the Internet.Because I do sure CAL and SkyTeam have a strong relationship(CAL's only non-ST code-sharing partner is Thai Int'l), I would repost it first. If you still don't think it is suitable after reading those Chinese information, it'll be okay to delete it.--Tsungyenlee 16:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikify

i believe this article is in much better shape. should the notice be removed? Urban909

[edit] Potential Future Members

hjk Emirates has expressed they do not want to join an alliance. See this news article

Mexicana will unlikely join their rival Aeromexico in the same airline alliance. They have been strengthening their relationship with oneworld partner American Airlines and it seems they wish to continue this relationship. [5] --XLR8TION 20:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Pakistan Airlines is highly unlikely to join an alliance that their archenemy, India, is a member of. Both national governments would have to agree on certain airspace restrictions and cooperation between both states has always been tense. --XLR8TION 20:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Indian Airlines, may or may not join Star or Skyteam, depending on the outcome of merger, and Air India was supposed to sign a tentative agreement to join Star in Decemeber, but didn't. So Indian Airliens is going back in (so no one delete it until the an official announcement contrary is made). SiberioS 00:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

What happened to Air Algerie? It has been stated that Air Algerie is in talks to join the alliance. Einsteinboricua 11:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Find a reliable source for that before adding the airline back. DB (talk) 05:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

China Airlines in Taiwan HAS expressed MANY TIMES that they have HIGHLY interests in joining. It's all reported local and international press icluding the latest issue of the largest Chinese civic aviation magzine called Airway, which can be bought at Hong Kong and Taiwan. Can anyone tell me why China Airlines has always been taken off the "otential list"??Tsungyenlee (converse)、(Contribs) 13:15, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some news (and help needed)

Tarom just signed an agreement with SkyTeam to become an associate some time later. This time they will be sponsored by AF, not by AZ as was initially announced. I can't figure out how to add this link as a note - http://corporate.airfrance.com/index.php?id=communiques_detail&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2773&L=1&no_cache=1 - as the brackets inside don't work well with wiki markup. --apoivre (talk) 15:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)