Talk:Skins (TV series)

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[edit] Hmm...

What is this? it reads like a press release. --Bobyllib 23:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

True, someone has copied the official press release, but as theres no other information available untill the show actually starts, I'm inclined to simply leave it untill alternative information can be found.--FabioTalk 23:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
For future reference, that's called a copyright violation and should never be allowed in Wikipedia regardless of the status of the program. TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 17:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
To be pedantic, press releases aren't copyrighted, so pasting a press release in, whilst bad form, is definitely not a copyvio. Certainly, under English law, it'd be considered fair dealing; I'm sure a US court would uphold that a press release can have no expectation of copyright and would be fair use. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 08:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
This does read very much like it was written by channel 4's marketing department which would make sense as they have been hyping this thing up to hell.--Josquius 12:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Does anyone know the song they play to skins?

Its in the article under trivia, "Standing in the way of control" by The gossip.

Woohooo Thankyou Thank you!!! Hugs Tracey xx
Your welcome.--FabioTalk 20:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted fan site link.

I deleted the fan site link as it wasn't the official fan site or anything... the link was :

:Skins fan site
cheersFlowerSniffer 22:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Don't really understand what's gone on here as ALL the external links have been hacked/altered to point to another skins fansite, one that is considerably less official than the deleted link, and what constitutes an "official" fan site anyway? Idumea 15:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

I adding a NPOV tag, because it seems a little too "yay, I heart skins <3".—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shamesspwns (talk • contribs) 27 February 2007 09:52 UTC

Doesn't seem that biased to me, anything particular you are not happy with? MrWeeble Talk Brit tv 22:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree that it seems a little like a fan site right now. There is no mention of the criticism it hAs had. --Neon white 15:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
What criticism? -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 17:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
See the citated criticism section --Neon white 14:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MySpace and other web 2.0 stuff

Should it be noted in the article the produces use of web 2.0 in particular myspace to give the characters a presence outside of the show itself. I am unsure whether this is the first time it has been done in such a calculated way before the show has gone to air.

I think it would possibly be a good idea.
Although the exact definition of web 2.0 is cloudy, that's not really what it means. And no, tie in websites and social network profiles are not original to this series, although they were prominent. I have no idea about US stuff but in the UK for instance, the refurbished Doctor Who series used dozens of tie-in webistes. AndrewJDTALK -- 21:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US version

Why isn't there an article on the US version of the show that airs on FOX? 77.97.230.248 12:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)DanZieBoy

Skin (TV series) is unrelated.~ZytheTalk to me! 22:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms

I have read a lot of criticisms for this show, but the ones listed here are no some of them. Radio Times, BBC and many well respected review sites have talked about Skins... so why is the majority of the criticisms section filled with only a small minority of opinions? And since when, if you will excuse the language, was Stewart fucking Lee a credible critic of ANYTHING at all!? JayKeaton 07:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It would be brilliant if you could develop the plaudits/ criticism section. Re Stewart Lee: i believe he started his career as a journalist. His comedy is topical, and he writes comedy drama. That's enough for me. Plus he's criticizing it as an audience member, not even in his professional capacity. It doesn't take much to qualify as an audience member. Amo 18:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
The laughable thing about the criticisms on this page, is that they seem to be from people who don't actually know what is going on with young people, claiming that this sort of thing doesn't happen, when it does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.200.75.222 (talk) 18:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
i agree with the above whats more laughable is that theres no other section about how positively skins has been recieved by the majority of people. 86.158.85.25 (talk) 16:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The reviews are largely mixed with most liking some aspects but being heavily critical about others. There certianly is no real evidence that would allow us to say they have been mostly positive. --neonwhite user page talk 02:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Criticism is not a negative word. It covers positive and negative aspects of reception.~ZytheTalk to me! 19:18, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Separate Music?

Can we put the music in skins on different pages to the episode, such as one big page with all the music from series one, organised by episode? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.196.165 (talk) 13:03, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree we should.
It would definately be a popular page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.87.22 (talk) 22:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Payrole

I Think we need a citation for that part,If not it should be deleted. And i dont think that it is very relevent to put that nick hoult gets more because he was in about a boy. DeadWood 20:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Airing in Australia

by 'summer' do people mean this summer or last? The year would be helpful since it's a bit ambiguous about whether it had aired or not

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.192.89 (talk) 17:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The article doesn't mention Skins airing in Australia in the summer. In Belgium, it aired in the summer of 2007, which was this past summer. Next summer would be called the summer of 2008. Itsjoshyo (talk) 18:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
But in australia Christmas is in december... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve37 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I should certainly hope that Christmas is in Australia is in December ^_^ I think he meant to say that Summer is in December in Australia. JayKeaton (talk) 08:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

OH so hang on! Do you mean it'll air in December then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.192.89 (talk) 17:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm still not sure how you got the idea from the article that Skins is airing in the summer in Australia... I may be mistaken but I don't think the article ever mentioned this. Also, please sign your talk posts ('~ ~ ~ ~' without the spaces and quotes). Itsjoshyo (talk) 18:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Age news - Skins Farsouth (talk) 13:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
The Show started airing in Australia on the 7th of January on the SBS Network, it's on every monday night. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.94.106 (talk) 10:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] International section is cluttered

I started the International section, but it seems to me it's getting a bit cluttered now as so many people have added more channels.

Does anyone else think a chart would work well in this section? Itsjoshyo (talk) 18:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Skins is currently on Monday nights on SBS, episode 1 aired this week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.23.77 (talk) 02:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Why has the International section been removed? Itsjoshyo (talk) 21:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Because Wikipedia is not a TV guide. This has already been discussed here and the consensus is to delete these kind of lists. - kollision (talk) 23:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why's it called Skins?

Hm? 86.44.6.14 (talk) 20:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Presumably some reference to Condoms.. With Skins being a slang term.. —Reedy Boy 22:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Skins are role up paper too, they say Skins refuring to role up paper in serie 1 episode 1, but the name could be in refference to both this and condoms. Chris as I am Chris (talk) 23:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Skins is most likely a reference to the paper used to roll a joint —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.44.54 (talk) 23:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
It's almost certainly the roll up papers. Tony refers to them as Skins in the first episode, hasn't been said since.

FreemDeem (talk) 22:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The title could also refer to the fact that each episode gets into the "skin" of a specific character (or characters). Of course this isn't necessarily relevant to the article so we'll leave it at that. :P Sillygostly (talk) 07:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

It is definitely called skins because of the slang term for joint rolling papers. If you look on the DVD cover for the first season "Skins" is written on a joint paper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.78.213.180 (talk) 00:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

There is an interview with Bryan Elsley, which I will find he said that one of the reasons the show is called Skins is because every time the characters change it like they are shedding there Skin like a snake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benv-b92 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Episodes devoted to Abigail Stock and "Posh Kenneth"

is this even true? I'm not sure that it is! Also, anyone know any ratings for series 2? Series one got 1.2. million on E4 for first episode and 1 million on channel 4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.192.89 (talk) 09:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep it's true, they spoke about it in a (video) series 2 press releases just after series 1.

It can't be true. at this stage (25/4/08) there are only 3 episodes left in this series. episode 7 is jal's - previews can be seen on tv and youtube; and episode 9 is cassie's - stated by hannah murray on an official blog on e4's website. which leaves episode 10 - the final, which i doubt would be devoted to either or both of them. if series 1 is anything to go by, it'll be an ensemble episode. Aflcfcfan (talk) 13:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Skins Userbox

Skins This user is a fan of Skins
I thought some of you might like this.

[edit] Series 2 first eisode ratings

The article mentions only ratings for the E4 premiere on mon 11 feb. The program was advertised before it aired as showing the following thursday on C4, a more mainstream channel, I presume normally attracting a larger audience. I note the ref given is dated the tuesday after the initial airing, so obviously does not comment on how well it did two days later. It seems now to be a habit by some TV companies to air a show on a minor channel shortly before it appears on a main one. Anyhow, it is not at all clear to me this means the viewing figures were 'more than 500,000 viewers down on its series one premiere'Sandpiper (talk) 00:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

actually on every channel bar C4 it advertised the premier as being on E4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benv-b92 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

yes, and it was on e4 first. Hardly any people tune into the channel 4 show, which has far lower ratings (considering it is on a mainstream channel). It's more of a 'repeat' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.192.89 (talk) 17:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Skins

I realize that there are a little under 150 pages, redirects and user page links that direct to Skins (TV series), but seeing as Skins just redirects here anyway I am wondering how people would feel about moving Skins (TV series) to Skins? I would have done it myself, but like I said there are 150 links to this page, of which probably about 60 or 70 are mainspace links. JayKeaton (talk) 06:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I second that =) Moving it to Skins sounds good to me. 99.236.50.65 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contested move request

The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM. —Dekimasuよ! 05:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Skins (TV series) → Skins — he page without parenthesis simply redirects to the page with them, so the parenthesis seem to be pointless. Would make things much easier and streamlined if this move was put forward. I don't think anyone would even notice, but I can't do it myself as Skins has a brief edit history. — JayKeaton (talk) 14:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Former cast members

Is "Former cast members" really necessary? I propose merging them with parents. After all, most parents only appear in the max of a couple of episodes anyway.

And it makes it as if the wikipedia entry is attempting to keep absolutely up to date with the series - which is constantly changing; those parents will always have had a part in previous episodes, even if they don't necessarily show up in future episodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.56.253 (talk) 05:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

They were originally Merged, then a mod separated them and your point about keeping up to date is invalid as partly because it's been done pretty well so far and partly because that's Wikipedia's job. Benv-b92 (talk) 08:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Well basically, It's only the parents in the "former character" list and there is no other characters who are not parents mentioned in that section (i.e. Angie) The Parents category is only a list of the actors that play the main character's parents, and the majority of them are on the front page as they are well known actors. Also, How do we know that a certain parent has left the series, Cassie's parents for example? Do we know for certain that they have left the show for good. Also, a good part of these kid's parents willmost likely be seen in one or two episodes, and are only used when needed. If you wanted to seperate the characters with the former characters in the better fashion, why not do it in the "Characters in Skins page" which is linked to in the Characters Section" of this page? 69.28.232.214 (talk) 21:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)samusek2

[edit] Series 3

proposal of series 3 section on skins page: series 2 has almost finished airing in the uk, and pre production has begun on series 3 - auditions etc. there is also much speculation on the future of the current cast and the changes being implemented for series 3. hard info and facts r hard to come by, but perhaps a new section on series 3 would be a good forum for the colaboration of facts from credible sources. Aflcfcfan (talk) 13:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm in favour of this... that is, if the information posted is official and comes from e4 itself, rather than speculation from fans. Angel caboodle (talk) 13:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree this is a good idea, if nothing else to rubbish the rumours that there will be a complete recasting as there have been various sources (I think Digital Spy would be the most appropriate example of this) saying that the third series will not have a new cast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benv-b92 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Link to MTV's Undressed

Having just seen a few episodes of this show for the first time, I think it would be appropriate to include a "See also" link to the very similar Undressed (TV series). Thoughts? 68.146.41.232 (talk) 15:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cast Reformatting

As I'm sure many of you will have noticed the cast section has been reformatted so it is now in paragraph from, in stead of list form does anyone else think it should be changed back as it is easier to read.Benv-b92 (talk) 18:08, 07 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that it should be reverted back to list-form. The family members, however, which have also recently been formatted into paragraph-form, should stay in paragraph-form because they aren't as important as the main characters. Angel caboodle (talk) 17:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that the table I made for the characters page was added to the main page. Just a personal opinion but I think on the main page the paragraph that was there before looked better, but if people prefer the table for the main page that's fine. I also noticed that the order of the characters were rearranged. When I made the table I ordered it alphabetically by surname. I am guessing that the current order is to do with how prominent the characters are? Whilst I agree that this may be slighty more useful, the order the characters go in would be a bit debatable. For example should Sid go before Michelle? That was why I did it alphabetically. Just food for thought I guess.--Sanders11 (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
the present order is the order of prominence as dictated on the official Skins website and as such is not debatable.Benv-b92 (talk) 22:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Works for me, thanks for explaining--Sanders11 (talk) 22:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)