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[edit] The danger of trivia sections

My concern is that allowing LOST, The Simpsons, The Sopranos or whatever to comment on each article by way of trivia sections massively exaggerates their importance. This is why not even the most specialized encyclopedia imaginable (think of a bird watching encyclopedia, for instance), if it wants to be serious, will include arbitrary pop culture references that are seriously dependent on the time the article was written. The idea is to write timeless articles, not date them with arbitrary references. PointDread (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contradictions in Article

First off I'd like to say I found this an impressive read. However, there appear to be a couple contradictions that seem to need clarification.

In the 4th paragraph of "The Question of Skeletor's Head" it says "All versions of Skeletor (apart from the 1987 film) depict him as having clearly empty eye sockets, sometimes with either permanently or intermittently visible glowing points of scarlet energy instead of actual biological eyes." However, those sure look like eyeballs looking at me from the Skeletor picture under "The New Adventures of He-man!" If those aren't eyes, what are they? Is that perhaps a misleading image?
Also, in the 3rd paragraph of the "Skeletor's Head" section, it states "The two first "New Adventures" minicomics, The New Adventure and Skeletor's Journey briefly show the injured Skeletor without his cowl, the second showing him even with ears." There is also a reference[[1]], but it appears this is the former comic, and not the latter which shows his ears? Just two paragraphs later it says "Although Skeletor can clearly hear, he has never been depicted as having ears, even on the New Adventures toy."

Has he ever had ears, or has he never had ears? Is the movie the only instance in which he has had eyes? I don't feel as though I have those answers definitively after reading the section. Although I was a fan back in the day, I'm clearly not the expert on the subject needed to clear up these contradictions, I'm going to flag this area in an attempt to get some clarification from an expert. Thanks! Theredcomet2000 04:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Will you listen to yourself man? Does Skeletor have ears? In fact, the whole 'question over Skeletor's head? In which particular universe did you think this would be encyclopedia-worthy? Seriously? If you want to go and debate heatedly with other such fanboys, there are allocated bits of the Internet for you to do that. Wikipedia doesn't tolerate it. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 04:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

- Note: In the series, "The New Adventures of He-Man", Skeletor DOES have eyes for a portion of the series near the beginning. However, this was soon changed to red glowing eyes.** (24.12.220.2 00:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Thulsa Doom/General Klytus

Note that the original version of the Kull character Thulsa Doom was a skull-faced sorcerer. Coincidence? I think not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.147.140.206 (talk • contribs) 02:16, September 29, 2005.

Note how in the 1980 movie Flash Gordon, Flash looks a whole lot like He-Man and General Klytus looks so very much like Skeletor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.69 (talk • contribs) 23:10, July 1, 2006.

[edit] Penny Arcade

Image:Penny Arcade comic-20051216h.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nrcprm2026 (talk • contribs) 02:24, January 24, 2006.

[edit] Long Article

Article is disturbingly long and detailed, longer than many country's wiki pages. Trimming suggested. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Semiquaver (talk • contribs) 19:40, January 25, 2006.

Doesn't that tell you that Skeletor is more important than countries like Burkino Faso? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.83.70.7 (talk • contribs) 12:59, February 6, 2006.

I've noticed it needs a lot of touching up too. Run on sentences and the like. Hanzolot 05:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Power Sword

I thought that Skeletor's intitial motivation for fighting He-man was that he, like He-man, possessed a power sword, which combine with He-man's would be the key to opening Gray-Skull. This is why the action figures came with matching power swords that fit together. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.109.248.114 (talk • contribs) 20:59, March 12, 2006.

MOTU saw several retcons over the years, this story appeared as one of them but was taken out later. It's mentioned on the He-man wiki page. 68.113.46.114 07:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Tale of Teela Mini-comic

I always thought that, originally, the implication in The Tale of Teela was that, in a way, Skeletor was Teela's father. Or as close as she was going to get. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.69 (talk • contribs) 19:03, July 31, 2006.

[edit] Skull Mask

Is it at all possible that Skeletor is wearing a skull mask rather than being a hugely buff male with a skull for a head? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neopeius (talk • contribs) 21:03, August 5, 2006.

Um, no. There has never been any indication of thise whatsoever. Sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.53.20 (talk) 14:33, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unused Backstory

In an issue of the magazine Starlog, can't remember the issue but it was 1982, the original backstory was Beastman was the evil king and Castle Greyskull was his fortress maned by "Skeletors" his evil minions. I realize this never made it to production, but was an early concept mentioned in a "What's new in toys" type article before the release of the line. If I can find the issue I'll state the number, I don't think it needs to be added to the article, but I wanted to share it here.Davidac18643 05:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apperance in Adult Swims Robot Chicken

This should be mentioned because in at least the modern culture seciton because its relavent. He appears in more then 1 episode also. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.166.49.31 (talk • contribs) 17:59, Novemver 1, 2006.

[edit] Status: Alive?

This made me laugh hysterically. How can he be considered alive? He's a) a cartoon character and b) a skull! Mattl 22:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but in the context of the storyline he is yet to be killed off. No versions of He-Man have seen Skeletor destroyed and so he is "alive." He might be undead but he's still alive in the context of the story.

Anon

[edit] Filmation>history>Snake Mountain

Where has it been suggested that Snake Mountain was built by Skeletor?

A character in the filmation episode "Golden Disks of Knowledge" states that Skeletor used the Golden Disks of Knowledge to build Snake Mountain and that he built Snake Mountain to conceal these disks.--BruceGrubb (talk) 10:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chronology

I think that the Minicomic section should precede the cartoon section. The Minicomics were the first to establish a story line, not only about Skeletor but about the Masters of the Universe.

Also I feel that the previous picture of Skeletor on this throne of bones was more appropriate that the current choice, (8/11/07).

[edit] Skeletor's Death in the Film

Who put the 'citation needed' tag there?

It's *obviously* inspired by Return of the Jedi! Nobody could watch the two films and not suspect it. Gunstar hero 20:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Unless someone else said it, it's original research. Citing sources is very important to Wikipedia.70.58.64.149 23:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MC Skeletor

The entry reading (at last edit): "* Popular Nerdcore rapper Jake Woods has taken on a side project under the name "MC Skeletor" ^[1], with Jaylyn Coffin, another popular Nerdcore rapper, as his producer "Evil-Lyn" ^[2]. Their work, ostensibly by the "actual" Skeletor and Evil-Lyn, is mostly parody in nature." is not intended as spam or advertising. The section on Skeletor in popular culture should well include this information, as Jake Woods' "MC Skeletor" persona is very much a use of Skeletor in popular culture. I am not Jake Woods, nor do I even know him (although, in the interest of full disclosure, I will admit to enjoying his music); rather, I assumed a popular culture reference such as this warranted citation. Perhaps it is the linking of outside media (despite a song and a comic strip also being linked) which causes this inclusion to be regarded as advertisement? If so, I imagine the citation of sources (the two artists' websites) could be removed, despite such a removal causing the information to be without proper citation.

Again, this inclusion was not meant as advertisement or promotion, nor am I affiliated in any way with Jake Woods, Jaylyn Coffin, MySpace, or any agents thereof. I do believe this information has as much necessity in the section in question as the Penny Arcade strip, or the Theocracy song. 70.58.64.149 20:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Replaced, minus references which could be construed as advertising.The Phantom Editor 23:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The New Adventures of He-Man V2.jpg

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[edit] History>Filmation

I don't believe "Infinita" has ever been mentioned in the Filmation series by the Sorceress or anyone else. Furthermore, it was never established that Skeletor actually "rules" the dark side of Eternia.

While Skeletor was a pupil of Hordak, it is not clear in the Filmation rendition of Masters Of The Universe, that Skeletor learned "black magic" from Hordak. In fact, in an episode of She-Ra, Princess Of Power, Hordak had once told Shadow Weaver that his preference science over magic.

Skeletor was a member of the Horde, but it has never been established that he was "second-in-command." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.146.112.66 (talk) 04:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Image

Why was the first image of Skeletor in Whispering Woods selected over the previous image with Skeletor on his distinct Throne of Bone? A poor choice was made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.224.204 (talk) 22:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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