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[edit] Mantanmoreland
Initiated by SirFozzie (talk) at 19:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Involved parties
- SirFozzie (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves • rights), filing party
- Mantanmoreland (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log)
- Samiharris (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the reques
- Diff. 1
- Diff. 2
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Request_for_more_admin_eyes_on_an_issue_.28RE:RfCU_result.29 [[1]] Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mantanmoreland
[edit] Statement by SirFozzie (initiating party)
Recently, there was a checkuser done on the accounts User:Mantanmoreland and User:Samiharris. This test came back inconclusive because one of the accounts (Known now to be Samiharris) only used open proxies. The case moved to WP:AN, per the suggestions of the CheckUser who did the initial check.
That discussion led to coincidental links between the two accounts, but further investigation was needed to determine if the two accounts were linked or not.
During the course of the investigation, it became known that User:Mantanmoreland had used at least two alternate accounts in ways that contravene wikipedia policies.. User:Lastexit and User:Tomstoner. In this investigation, a large amount of information became known that links the accounts of Mantanmoreland and Samiharris together. Common interests, targets, phraseology, and edit times were all found.
What was not found was anytime where the accounts of Mantanmoreland and Samiharris were editing simultaneously. The two accounts edits dovetailed together, that the two never were editing at the same time. This is over the year that the Samiharris account has been active on Wikipedia.
With the evidence from My initial investigation, and The additional, deeper information provided by many users who dug into this case, a Request for Comment was opened. This RfC, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mantanmoreland, has an overwhelming consensus that yes, the two accounts are indeed linked together. This is a problem primarily because the two accounts have double-!voted in Request for Administrator Access case, as well as Article For Deletion debates, and have been used to establish consensus in merging several financial term articles into an article they had "collaboratively" wrote.
However, any move to enforce sanctions would be widely controversial. This is due to Real Life concerns (The person "supposedly" behind these probable sockpuppet accounts has been in a long-standing "Real world" feud with banned user User:WordBomb, and the fact that the two accounts have edited the article on this Real-Life identity.
There had been a request to the Foundation for guidance on this, Jimbo Wales commented on this investigation, giving it his blessing, but there was little guidance about this issue regarding real life identity. There is also a political side to this, but as much as I try to avoid Wiki-Politics, that is not my bailwick.
ArbCom's guidance is needed to determine the following:
A) To endorse the finding that Samiharris and Mantanmoreland could be considered sock puppets of each other.
B) Whether a Block/Ban is warranted of a person who has disrupted Wikipedia for over a year and has been caught using sockpuppets multiple times in ways that contravene Wikipedia policy.
C) If POSSIBLE, to determine if the two accounts can be considered linked to that real-life identity.
My thoughts are that there is a link between the two accounts, and considering the amount of disruption, as well as the fact that this is the second time the account Mantanmoreland has been linked to sockpuppetry, a long term ban is required.
[edit] Statement by {Party 2}
[edit] Clerk notes
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