Talk:Sirius in fiction

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 08-23-2007. The result of the discussion was No consensus.

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[edit] Mismatching

'In the fantasy novel Dogsbody by Diana Wynne Jones the star Sirius is an intelligent being falsely accused of murdering another star by his peers. As punishment he is sent to Earth in the body of a new born puppy to find the weapon he supposedly used.' This does not match what ==Sirius in popular culture== in the article: Sirius says.68.148.165.213 03:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

There is no longer a mismatch since someone (not me) merged the entries. The book link was pointing to the wrong article but I corrected that. --GwydionM 21:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No sources?

This article is listed as 'without sources'. But each reference points to a particular book or broadcast. There probably isn't a single source that would list all of them - if it has some, it might well be less accurate than what's shown here. --GwydionM 07:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Since no one disagreed, I have removed the slur on the article's sources. --GwydionM 16:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

In order to make this list a little less crufty, I made the following changes:

  1. Moved references to people, animals, and things in fiction that are called "Sirius" but are not the star Sirius to the article Star names in popular culture.
  2. Moved references to people, things, companies, etc. in the real world that use the name Sirius (e.g. as a pseudonym or brand name or title) to Sirius (disambiguation), where, of course, many of them already were listed.
  3. Changed the name of the article from "Sirius in popular culture" to "Sirius in fiction", since the latter was now more appropriate; the article now only contains references to the star Sirius in works of fiction (generally but not exclusively science fiction).

RandomCritic 00:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inclusion

I have made a reference to the character 'Sirius Black' in the Harry Potter Series. All of the information is taken from the character's article. Chris Buttigieg 19:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

In Doctor Who, two mentions are made of the Sirius system. In 'Frontier in Space' (1973) the Master poses as an official from Sirius, an independent dominion of the Earth Empire in the 26th Century. In 'The Caves of Androzani' (1984), the colonised planets Androzani Major and Minor are in the Sirius system, though the period is unspecified.

[edit] Cosmic Trigger

Regardless of factual accuracy, Cosmic Trigger is written as non-fiction, and therefore doesn't belong in this article. Removed. 66.196.20.87 23:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting listcruft

This page is useless as a collection of each and every instance of the name "Sirius" in any context. If it doesn't refer to the star Sirius, it doesn't belong here. See further Star names in popular culture (itself a rather horrible example of listcruft). RandomCritic 00:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The text of the afd notice.

There appears to be some disagrement over what the text of the afd notice at the top of the page should read. It seems to me that since the bolded text in the afd closure reads keep the text above should as well, but there is an alternate viewpoint that since the closure text also explains that the votes were fairly equal and that it was kept by default it should read no consensus. TBH This isn't something I feel is importnat enough to fight about (though I guess it may have some minor significance should the In Popular Culture police drag the article to afd again) but I think unless anyone knows of a particular policy we should get some consensus on what it should read. Artw 03:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

In my judgment it is an exceptionally silly thing to even talk about. The text at the AfD is most important and it fully explains my reasoning. Let's back to making an encyclopedia. --JodyB yak, yak, yak 13:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sirius Black

Why does it not appear here? I wanted to add it but it said that it doesn't belong here. It should be added because the name Sirius is because of the star (Sirius is the dog star, Sirius Black transforms into a dog)... doesn't that make sense? W1k13rh3nry 21:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Plus Sirius Black's family tree as stated by Sirius_Black#Family_tree involves the name Orion, which is also a stellar reference. I don't think WP:NOR applies here, though it might. W1k13rh3nry 21:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Because this is an article about references to the star Sirius in fiction -- not allusive uses of the name Sirius. "Reference" means that the star actually has to appear in the fictional work. Sirius Black is a fictional person. Not a star. RandomCritic 21:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Just a note

Quite a few of these references refer to things that happened to be named after the star and not the star itself. If Sirius Black from the Harry Potter series should not be included for this reason, then I think others should follow the same standards.

Zephyrus11 21:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Such as? Artw 03:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)