Talk:Sir Robert Charles Griggs

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This article was nominated for deletion on 24 October 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

In regards to my references, the answer is simple: this guy hasn't had much coverage in print. Which is not surprising or unusual for notable performers of "cult" status. Some editors may no doubt take issue with this, but how to you measure "notabilty" or "impact on music"? This is a unique guy who had a major label record release and then left the business, as near as I can tell. His music is featured on national, current CD releases of the early, pioneering Town Hall Party program (credited as "Bobby"), and is often found in ecclectic radio shows and in the collections of alt-country fans, of which I am not neccesarily one.

The information in the article is incomplete and hopefully can be expanded, but it all came from 1)the recent article written about Griggs, the first sign I found of his whereabouts 2)the informational booklet that came with the original album, featuring is date of birth in Ohio, his first appearance on national televison, etc, and 3) from contacting some of the original musicians who worked on the album, including Gary Paxton, the producer. Gary told me that Robert "was a sweet guy" who, like many Nashville musicians, burned out from hard living and hard drinking. Later, he found religion and left that lifestyle behind him, according to Paxton. As far as I can tell, this limited information is true and supports what the article cited says about him.

As to the claim of the album being "rare," as a record collector, this is not an ultra-rare album, it did receive an national release, but because of its unusual content is not widely found in record stores, and will usually sell for about 20 dollars for a decent-conditon LP. Such a price is generally a sign of a desireable or rare LP.

The album's choice of instruments, sound textures, and general production values sets it appart from others in the genre. This can be easily determined by listening to it, and bearing in mind that it was produced by Gary Paxton, who is a famed eccentric music producer.

Any other information and input on this person or his work would be greatly appreciated.

Justinkrivers 06:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Look, we've been through this already. You HAVE to provide some sources for your claims. While proving a negative is essentially impossible, it's not MY responsibility to prove he isn't notable, it's yours to prove he IS. I trust Ed Ward -- who writes about the most obscure corners of rock-and-roll history, was a co-author of the Rolling Stone Hostory of Rock and Roll, and helped found SXSW -- and when he says he's never heard of the guy, the guy's too obscure for an encyclopedia. --Calton | Talk 06:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)