Talk:Sir Louis Spears, 1st Baronet

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[edit] Full Name

His full name should be Sir Edward Louis Spears. However, I don't how the name of the entry can be changed from the existing Sir Louis Spears. Comments appreciated. Mikeo1938 (talk) 10:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The existing article under the name of Louis Spears should be left as it is ... its title should not be changed. The biography of Spears by Max Egremont states that Louis was the name by which he was called. So the page, Major General Sir Edward Spears, should be deleted.Mikeo1938 (talk) 18:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
As I understood you request, I deleted a redirect with trivial edit history at Sir Edward Louis Spears, 1st Baronet at moved the article about the person there. Sir Louis Spears, 1st Baronet is now a simple redirect. You, me or anybody else can undo the page move with the move Tab as long as the remaining redirect isn't modified. --Tikiwont (talk) 21:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
You'll need the fix all the broken redirects and double redirects at Special:Whatlinkshere/Sir Louis Spears, 1st_Baronet. It's a bit of a mess, I'm afraid. Leithp 11:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, the question is whether to undo the move or if the new name is indeed correct, rather fix the double redirects (which can also be done by anyone including a bot). As far as I see there are no 'broken' redirects. So the first questions is: what should be the page title?--Tikiwont (talk) 13:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The page currently says "Sir Edward Louis Spears, 1st Baronet" and it should be left as such now. I have included a note in the article saying that he was known under the name of "Louis". Hope that you can sort out the muddle. Mikeo1938 (talk) 13:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The broken (redirecting to self) redirect was fixed by me after leaving that message. I appreciate that fixing the redirects can be done by anyone, but it's normally done by the person doing the move at the time rather than leaving it for someone else to tidy up. Page names do not normally include titles such as "1st Baronet" unless there is a need to disambiguate between people of the same name. Leithp 14:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry if this came across as leaving the tidying the others, but the move regarding the title happened in the past and the one above (adding also the 'Edward') wasn't really mine but on behalf of Mikeo, maybe mistakenly since there was a technical obstacle, but the self redirect wasn't created by me, but by another editor after the move.[1]. My problem with the double redirects is still that there was doubt or if we have place now right. Now I tend to rather undo my own action above, because there doesn't seem to be consensus and he is more known as Louis, so the full name could be the redirect. --Tikiwont (talk) 15:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I undid the only action that i did here and moved the page back to Sir Louis Spears, 1st Baronet per above. --Tikiwont (talk) 15:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I sorry about this dog's breakfast! I now believe that the article should indeed be entitled, "Sir Edward Louis Spears, 1st Baronet". This was his full name. However, I have included a note saying that he was known as "Louis". What do others think? Mikeo1938 (talk) 16:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Based on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Other non-royal names item 4, I would suggest either "Edward Louis Spears" or "Louis Spears" as there is no need for disambiguation. Leithp 16:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Since he was known by his second name, he present article title is correct. His full name is properly given in the first line. He was a KBE and a Baronet. Kittybrewster ☎ 10:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
OK and VMT for your help. So I won't alter the title.Mikeo1938 (talk) 10:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Length of article

I can see that this article is getting too long and will be reducing its length to conform with Wikipedia guidelines. Mikeo1938 (talk) 20:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Continuation of article

I've had to stop work on this article for now but will be resuming ASAP. Mikeo1938 (talk) 08:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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