User talk:Simply south

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[edit] Archives

[edit] This months Metro

The next Metro will be issued on the 1st of March. Posted by Unisouth (talk) 15:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Message

You ACTUALLY fell for it? I think you're the first one to tell me! Tehe...LOTRrules (talk) 20:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Valley Lines

I was just looking at it actually, it's good work. I didn't think of adding that line, but I'm just going to add the extension to Ebbw Vale Town and change the branch to Newport because services aren't actually running there yet. Thanks Welshleprechaun (talk) 20:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes you're right about Newport. In that case we'll leave that red. BS7-2's new to me as well, I'm just following the pattern. Welshleprechaun (talk) 21:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok then, good work Welshleprechaun (talk) 21:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Royal Docks Heritage Railway

I have replied to your question at Talk:Royal Docks Heritage Railway. Biscuittin (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. There doesn't seem to be any recent news on the RDHR website [1] and I have some doubts about whether the project will go ahead. Biscuittin (talk) 17:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] National Express redirect

Who there, could you revert that move. There is no consnsus on the move at RM, and as I was literally looking into it now, it appears National Express is remaining as the express coach identity [2], all other rebranded UK divisions are getting big straplines, (West Midlands is bigger than the NX bit [3]). Additionally, NX operations overseas are not being rebranded, so the NX name does not apply to them. MickMacNee (talk) 17:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sheffield stations

Hi, wondering if you have some information that may clear up a problem. There is an article West Tinsley railway station but the template calls it Tinsley West. Have you any idea which is correct? Keith D (talk) 20:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London Waterloo

Fix the fucking double redirects. 71.106.173.211 (talk) 06:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

  • You still haven't fixed them. 71.106.173.211 (talk) 15:10, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
    • A robot has fixed the redirects for you. You're lucky it got there in time. 71.106.173.211 (talk) 06:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Birmingham city centre stations

A tag has been placed on Template:Birmingham city centre stations requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Services and Night Riviera

Thanks for your welcome to Wikipedia - I'm not all that new as I have made anonymous edits in the past. I thought I would try to find some time to repay the knowledge that I have mined from these pages with some proper editing, but it seems a rather fruitless task as many of my edits have been simply reverted with no comment, at least you had the deceny to expalin your reasons.

I must admit that I don't agree with you. The Night Riviera is just another FGW service and at most stations, certainly in Cornwall, the stopping pattern is no different to many other FGW trains. If we have to put an extra line to show the Night Riviera, then what about the Cornish Riviera Express, Golden Hind, etc.?

Still your revert shows some thought, unlike all those Cross-Country Route links which link, say Penzance, with a page concerned with Bristol to Derby!

Happy editing! Albert Bridge (talk) 10:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] am i 19andy91

yes i am i forgot my username so i made another one then i looked at one of my pictures on here and saw it there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123andy321 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Andys

Hi! I noticed that you are looking at the 2 Andys (their user names are similar). I think that they could be sockpuppets/related, as they both have edited 'one' / National Express articles. Regards, Btline (talk) 17:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I've just noticed the comment above!!! maybe one should be blocked indefinitely. Btline (talk) 17:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi, many thanks for reverting some vandalism on my user page. Keith D (talk) 11:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whatley

Hi, I noticed you redirected Whatley to Whatley, Mendip with the explanation that there is a hamlet in Somerset with the same name. Our convention has been to use place name, Somerset as the title where there is more than one village of the same name - are you aware of another Somerset village/hamlet with the name Whatley? & if so can you give any further info eg grid ref or lat/long etc? Also the "otheruses" template redirects back to the same page?— Rod talk 15:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks I've now found the other Whatley. I've created Whatley, South Somerset which redirects to Winsham which is the parish the hamlet is in. I've also edited the entries on List of United Kingdom locations: Wh & done the "otheruses" on Whatley, Mendip. I hadn't spotted the other Whatley until your edit otherwise I would have sorted it before now - thanks for your help.— Rod talk 17:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Template:Central Line‎

As you have taken a interest in this template before, I would invite your comments on the reworking I have done on it recently, particularly the treatment of Stratford, the White City area and the aborted Denham extension. Thanks!! Britmax (talk) 14:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on this subject. I'm not sure about the "disused low level platform" at the north (left on the diagram) side of Stratford. Haven't yet found any proof that it existed. Also, you're right, this line has no cross platform interchange so I may work in a solution that differentiates the low level from the others on this basis.

I linked the right hand running through White City to the station article as the reason for it is briefly explained in the station article. From experience (I was a guard on the Central Line in 1980) I know that the regulars are unaware of the origins if this practice, let alone non users. Thanks again. Britmax (talk) 09:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Well that was one of my thoughts for the "disused" platform at Stratford (if they lift the NLL they'll have an impressive underpass). Anyway a year of watching the Timken bearings on the Eastern region trains as I sank into the Central Line tunnel means I know there is cross platform connection here! The station may end up as two groups linked (high and low levels). Thanks again. Britmax (talk) 11:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Prototype Doodle

Central Line
STR uSTR
STRrg KRZo uKRZo HSTR HSTR STRlg
Stratford
STR CPICl uCPICr STR
High Level
(Proposed NLL relocation)
eBHF STR uTUNNELa uCPICla uCPICma xCPICre
Low Level
North London Line
LUECKE STR utSTR uLUECKE uLUECKE exLUECKE
North London Line
Great Eastern Main Line
LUECKE utSTR uLUECKE uLUECKE
Jubilee Line
utSTR uLUECKE
Docklands Light Railway

Thoughts? (not "Get a Life", I know that(!) Britmax (talk) 11:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cheers

Thanks for all the vandalism reverts to my user and talk pages.--Kubigula (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Navenby

Hi there! I have no idea who put this article through for Featured Article status, and was therefore extremely surprised to come across your suggestions for improvment today! However, I have taken note of them all and followed all your instructions. The reference figure now tops 100 - phew, it's hard work! Just out of interest, could you take another look and see if I'm on the right path. To be honest, I'd LOVE it to be a FA! Thanks! --Seahamlass 11:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks again! I just wish the GA process was over! It seems to take so long for things to get reviewed. The temptation is to keep fiddling (usually during work hours!) but I've carried out every suggestion given by you and Rod, so it's a case of keeping my fingers crossed I guess! --14:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Seahamlass —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seahamlass (talkcontribs)

[edit] This month's Metro...

Here you go!

BG7 11:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Member

Hi, thanks for the message. Only a few little edits so far, but I hope to be able to make some more additions to the station pages for the Hitchin-Cambridge line.

Sorry if you were upset that I had copied your User page - I just needed something to get me going. I think it should be completely personalised to me now - including the sandpit link (except your useful set of links) :-)

Andrew --Ajcoxuk (talk) 16:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hertford East Line

I've reworked the diagram for this line, adding in the two closed branches. Have left Buntingford linking to the town for now, link can be changed once the article is written. Mjroots (talk) 23:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Jowett's Railway Atlas shows a junction before Hertford East station linking to Hertford North. However, I know of other inacurracies in that work, so will leave it to you if you know better. Mjroots (talk) 23:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
It's a bit complicated, The best way to show it is to do you a diagram using the rail line template. Mjroots (talk) 23:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Nope, was neither of those. Am working on it in my sandbox. Give me half hour or so. Mjroots (talk) 23:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Railways around Hertford
LUECKE
BHF
Stapleford
STRrg HSTR xABZrf
BHF exSTR
Hertford (North)
exHLUECKE eKRZo exHSTR exABZlg
To Hatfield
LUECKE exBHF
Hertford
KBFa exSTR
Hertford (East)
eABZrg exSTRrf
LUECKE

That is how it is drawn in Jowett. Mjroots (talk) 00:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll leave you to sort out the template <g> Mjroots (talk) 00:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I've tweaked the diagram a bit to link to the Hertford Loop Line (diagram there needs redrawing :-/). I only know of one County School railway station. On another note, I'm looking for someone to get a railway article through the GA process, are you interested? Mjroots (talk) 08:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On 9 March 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hertford East Branch Line, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--PFHLai (talk) 08:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA candidate

I did have an article in mind, Chemin de Fer des Côtes-du-Nord, which is a French FA. I've had a few comments and made a start on addressing points raised, but would like someone to be the official proposer/arbiter.Mjroots (talk) 11:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

White spaces - I'm not seeing a huge white space where you mention seeing one. On my screen, the line 1924 and closed is the last line at the bottom of the diagram, the next line reading on 31 March 1950. There were two major bridges on the line, the being at the bottom of the photo of the Viaduc de Lézardrieux. The line below that spans the full width of the page. Maybe it's something to do with your monitor and settings? Mjroots (talk) 16:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the next image down over to the left, it seems that the diagram extends further down the page for you. Let me know if this has cured the problem. Mjroots (talk) 16:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Looks fine to me. If you're happy about the whitespace issue would you strike it on the talk page please? Then I'll know it's done. Mjroots (talk) 16:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Socks

Seems likely. I'll keep an eye out. :) ~ Riana 02:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi Simply south,

Thanks for the Barnstar - much appreciated.Pyrotec (talk) 21:05, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crossrail 2

I see there's been a rash of treating this as a real project around here recently. It's saafeguarded so that a project that vaguely resembles it might one day be built, but that's it. --Mr Thant (talk) 00:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wrexham & Shropshire map

Hi, thanks for your message. My thinking at the time I removed the map (as part of the revamp) was that given it's not to scale, it didn't really offer much of an advantage over the Route Diagram Template, which is a lot neater (and doesn't need clicking on). Your new image is an improvement, but doesn't solve either of these problems. --RFBailey (talk) 00:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you could make it a bit more to scale, and the text larger? --RFBailey (talk) 00:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Maybe it doesn't need to be entirely accurate, but London needs to be shown further away from Banbury than it is now! Also, perhaps shrink the West Midlands a bit? --RFBailey (talk) 00:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
When you're happy with it, upload it so we can all have a look! --RFBailey (talk) 01:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
That's a lot better--could you make the text bigger, though? --RFBailey (talk) 19:03, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] First ScotRail and SPT stations

I was wondering whether actually SPT stations do fall under being a sub-cat of the First ScotRail stations as not all stations listed are served or managed by First ScotRail. I think the cats shouuld be left separate. Simply south (talk) 21:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I think to only two not managed by First are Prestwick Airport and Glasgow Central. You are probably right, feel free to amend accordingly. --Stewart (talk) 22:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
There are also all the Glasgow Subway stations which are managed by SPT and not First ScotRail. Simply south (talk) 22:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Had overlooked these - and have used several today!! --Stewart (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Airport railway stations in London to Category:Airport railway stations serving London.

Yup, seems fair enough. Cnbrb (talk) 17:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment stuff

Thanks for sorting the assessment stuff on WP Somerset. Could you work similar magic for a new wikiproject I'm helping out at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Museums where we are still discussing importance etc.— Rod talk 21:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Council roll call

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[edit] Mergeto

Unfortunately David Levy has removed the date display altogether. Rich Farmbrough, 09:02 28 March 2008 (GMT).

[edit] Re: LU

Fair enough. Remember there are sub-articles split off from the main one that might also need a look at. - Dudesleeper / Talk 18:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Signature

=D Look up at the previous thread. Looks like I got you too! '''[[User:WBOSITG|<font color="darkblue">weburiedoursecrets</font>]][[User talk:WBOSITG|<font color="navy">inthegarden</font>]]''' (talk) 13:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Not a bad thing per se. I just unchecked "raw sig". '''[[User:WBOSITG|<font color="darkblue">weburiedoursecrets</font>]][[User talk:WBOSITG|<font color="navy">inthegarden</font>]]''' (talk) 13:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
XD '''[[User:WBOSITG|<font color="darkblue">weburiedoursecrets</font>]][[User talk:WBOSITG|<font color="navy">inthegarden</font>]]''' (talk) 13:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Haha, thanks for catching that. nedragehtnistercesruodeirubew 16:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
[taps nose] =P nedragehtnistercesruodeirubew 17:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not quite loads

Thanks for the message Simply south! Not quite loads of edits yet, but im getting there.

...What's with the vinegar and ketchup? Chris1193 (talk) 15:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of cards in Dinosaur King

I have nominated List of cards in Dinosaur King, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cards in Dinosaur King. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ibus

See London Buses#Ibus. Unisouth (talk) 07:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parkhead railway station

I do not think it was wise to change the article name of this station, as it had three different names during its life. My feeling is the article should have been left - with the original name - with redirects from the other names. --Stewart (talk) 16:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I just thought it should be moved to disambiguate it from other stations with that name and it seems that most station articles take the name in which the stations were named just before they closed, so i have seen. Simply south (talk) 16:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Having just done the route map for the Coatbridge Branch (NBR) I was thinking about this, including the Switchback Line. My mind is current to do a disambig page and route map as with Ardrossan railway station. Parkhead will become the disambig page, with the other articles (including one for London Road spawned from it. --Stewart (talk) 16:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Navenby

Hello, sorry to trouble you, but I just wondered if I could ask a favour. You were kind enough to leave me some good advice about this article on its talkpage the last time it was up for FAC, which I hope I have addressed, and I wondered if you could cast your eye over it again and decide if you could give your support to it? . It has been through a Peer Review, won Good Article status and has been vigorously copy-edited since the last time. I've also had to remove a lot of the photos, to fit in with FA standard, so it doesn't look quite the same, and the refs have been tightened up too. (It has two supports so far, and no opposes, so fingers crossed!). Many thanks, --seahamlass 10:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Hi, I just added this as the source you asked for: [[4]], as it is from the Government, so verifiable and reliable etc. Hope this is OK?

[edit] Fifteen Guinea Special

Hi. I certainly would not mind if you nominated it for WP:DYK, it is certainly a nice little fact.Grizzlyqi (talk) 10:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This months Metro

The next months metro will be delivered on the 1st of May 2008 Unisouth (talk)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 20 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fifteen Guinea Special, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--DaughterofSun (talk) 04:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Template:Varsity Line

I've just given this template a revision, to reflect the relationship with the other lines more clearly (an orbital line crossing radial lines). Let me know if you have any comments. Britmax (talk) 10:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC) Oh, and you might want to look at the talk page for the Central Line template. There are changes there as well. Britmax (talk) 10:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ham

It must be a mistake, I am not 'Ham'.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnhorgan (talkcontribs) 07:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May Metro!

Enjoy Simply South!

BG7 19:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UK Railway Stations

Noted that you have tagged these as "Class=list". Surely the article should also begin "List of" etc. in order to maintain consistency? Olana North (talk) 20:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Smile!

[edit] Question about your edit

I saw that you edited the participas list on the WikiCouncil page. You removed the names of many participants including my name, Why?    Juthani1   tcs 02:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! I was not notified, I just happened to be looing at it    Juthani1   tcs 15:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your review. I welcome your constructive criticism, as I realize all of us have room for improvement.

In regard to my userpage edits, most of those are from the days when I catalogued every single article I'd edited on my userpage. As the list got larger, I turned it into a tree with categories. When I started the articles without images project, however, I realized that this would only slow my progress down, so I stopped. I am, however, still keeping an image gallery, which isn't nearly as much effort as cataloguing every taxon I've edited. A couple days ago I noticed someone had their gallery on a separate page from their userpage, so I decided that seemed more efficient and less page-cluttering and adopted that technique.

Hopefully my own userpage edits will stay relatively low for awhile, as I have just gotten it the way I want it again after inserting extra code yesterday.

Well, off to find images of plants again! Thanks again, Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 13:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re

I did not understand what you are talking about? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 13:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Devon

Hi I've just set up an assessment page for the Wikiproject Devon located here. Do you know how you can get one of these pages for the Devon Wikiproject? Meaty♠Weenies (talk) 22:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It already has categories for the quality. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Devon/Assessment#Quality assessments and for their importance see Wikipedia:WikiProject Devon/Assessment#Importance assessment. They don't all have content in them though. And they don't use the exact name that you gave for the categories on my talk page. Meaty♠Weenies (talk) 23:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
It appears as though User:WP 1.0 bot has just done this for me. Thanks anyway! Meaty♠Weenies (talk) 00:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for welcome

Thanks for the welcome, i'm a just doing the odd bit of lurking and odd bit of work, as i am too busy to carry on what i was once doing when i was on here more regularly under me registered name ;) 84.71.229.251 (talk) 20:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Dudleybus

Hi Simply south,

Tombrant407 was my old username before i changed it.

Thanks - Dudleybus Spake 2 me 12:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The latest Metro!

The next Metro wil be delivered on the 1st July! UNI|SOUTH 17:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment on iridescent's talk page

I saw your comment there. The code to use is <span style="background:#ffffff;position:absolute;top:-45px; left:-165px;z-index:-3">[[Image:Animated Kaleidoscope.gif|164px]]</span> Just replace "Image:Animated Kaleidoscope.gif" with whatever image you want to use. J.delanoygabsadds 13:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bureaucrats' noticeboard/RfA Report

Wrt this: I replied here. It's completely useless to edit that page. dorftrottel (talk) 21:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

for the userpage revert of the edits from my fanclub ;) delldot talk 01:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I know

I'm just so used to typing four tildes that sometimes I forget to change it when I am timestamping. –thedemonhog talkedits 17:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rest of line

Would the Stirling-Alloa-Kincardine rail link still count as proposed\authorised\under construction because of the aspirations of Longannet-Dunfermline under consideration? Simply south (talk) 15:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I would consider so as this project (the project website and article title) only considered the refurbishment and reopening of the line between Stirling and Kincardine. The remainder of the line is open - albeit frieght only. I would suggest future opening of the remainder of the line to passenger services would be the subject of a new project (and article). --Stewart (talk) 15:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Future projects

Could i ask your opinion on this? I am wondering whether the time is right to start an article or two on two proposed railway projects in Scotland, both within about 10-20 miles of each other. One is the Leven rail link, linking towns such as Leven and Methill to the Dunfermline Circle at Thornton, and one is the St Andrews rail link (or Starlink) linking St Andrews to Leuchars. Simply south (talk) 17:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I had a look at the Transport Scotland Rail Projects page and these projects are not listed. I would be reluctant to add them without a relevant reference to a feasibility study, proposal or other web site reference. Sorry I am not being too positive. --Stewart (talk) 19:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
There is however merit in some ways. The Leven rail link, although i can't find a website, seems to have been backed by various MSPs in Fife Council and talks seem to be underway. Starlink does have its own website and they had sent a local questionnaire out of which the results made it into the news as a majority support. Simply south (talk) 19:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Based on this I would go for a stub article for Starlink, not sure about the Leven rail link. --Stewart (talk) 19:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)