User talk:Simonschaim

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Hello, Simonschaim, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] AfD

Normally when I send articles to AfD it is with a feeling of annoyance at how people can post such nonsense here. But in the case of the first Shabbat spent by civilians in Hebron after the Six Day War, I am nominating it with a certain hesitation. It is a good article; I assume it is your own work and not a copyright violation; it seems to have a reasonably NPOV. But I just don't feel it belongs here. If I get shot down in flames in the AfD discussion and get told strong keep, then I apologise in advance.

But, anticipating the result of the debate, I recommend you to secure the text on your own machine and publish the article on your own website. Having done that there are probably several existing articles here to which you can add a link to your page - and where the link will stick!.

Please don't let me put you off from contributing but I suggest you read a few more articles here and get the feel for the style and level of detail normally used. For example, isn't it a bit upside down to create The Jewish community of Przedecz, Poland before we have an article about Przedecz? -- RHaworth 08:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richmal Crompton's "Just William" and the Jews

Hi, I have nominated your "three part" article (Richmal Crompton's "Just William" and the Jews - part 1, Richmal Crompton's "Just William" and the Jews - part 2 and Richmal Crompton's "Just William" and the Jews - part 3) for deletion. Please take a look at Wikipedia's policy on original research - as far as I can tell your article is your own research. As per RHaworth's note above, Wikipedia is not the venue for you to publish your own research on a topic, however well intentioned. Thanks, Gwernol 11:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No thanks

The AfD debate has pointed me to your GeoCities page. Now I am going to come in much more firmly. I could nominate all your stuff as copyvios - we have no proof that you are actually Chaim Simons. But I will assume that you are he, and say: no thanks, posting your articles as crude cut-and-pastes is totally out of the spirit of Wikipedia - which is based on colaboratively written articles. Doing so when they are already available on the web is really nothing but vanity. Some, like the Just William article are going to get tagged as original research. So please, no more copy-and-pastes but do feel free to add links to your stuff.

Incidentally, Richmal Crompton lived in Oakley Road, Keston. I have forgotten the name of her house but there is a blue plaque on it. Please accept my assurance, my motives are not anti-semitic in the slightest - it's not much evidence but I did add my own photo to Singers Hill Synagogue a few days ago. -- RHaworth 11:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Answer

ANSWER TO RHAWORTH FROM SIMONSCHAIM

Dear Roger

Thank you for your message via Wikipedia.

Until the correspondence of today, I understood that the function of Wikipedia was to provide the maximum amount of information to the maximum number of people. To assist others, I myself have on several occasions in the past supplied answers to questions sent to the “reference desk.”

Due to the almost infinite number of sites appearing today on the Internet, I have been informed by an expert user that the chance of a person finding a particular website (unless it is very well known) is almost zero. I have also learned from experience this fact myself. Almost everyone I talk to, does not know of my website and those who have found it, have informed me that they only discovered it by chance.

It was for this reason alone (and not for vanity) that I put some material from my website on Wikipedia, so that a greater number of people might benefit from the literally hundreds upon hundreds of hours of my research.

Since receiving your comments today, I have studied the material put out by Wikipedia on the sort and limitations of material requested for articles and see that my understanding of what is required was incorrect. So I now know for the future.

I am very grateful for you pointing this fact out to me and apologise for giving you and other editors of Wikipedia any unnecessary trouble.

Best wishes

Chaim Simons

(I AM Chaim Simons and can send you plenty of evidence that me and the author of the website are one and the same!)

[edit] Thanks

Please note:

So what? The article to which those links refer contains over forty "non-links" of the first sort. You want people to find your site but, to put it crudely, why should people create links to your site, if you can't be bothered to create proper links on your site? I believe it is true to say that search engines will give higher rankings to pages that contain links.

So, think links! Let's be subversive and see how you can exploit Wikipedia to help promote your website. As I have already said, create links in existing Wikipedia articles. You have not done any in a logged on state and in fact it might be better to create them while logged off so people don't tie them up with your user name. I have already done links for you in Richmal Crompton and Just William - let's see if they stick. Create a short Przedecz article and put a link in it. Get one or two of Ayelet's photos, upload them and include them. (A few pictures on your own website would not go amiss!)

Elsewhere on the web. I am not a search engine optimisation expert but try the following: go to blogger, create a blog and update it regularly - there you can promote yourself as much as you like! Find Jewish forums and spam links with gay abandon - some of them will stick!

Keep a watch on The Jewish community of Przedecz, Poland - it may yet survive. It has been wikified for you. See my comments at User talk:FeanorStar7#Przedecz.

I was an avid reader of the William Brown stories when I was at school but only now, thanks to you, have I learnt that she and I were both born in Bury! Shalom. -- RHaworth 23:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your contributions

Greetings. I, for one, hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia – while remaining within the set policies of "no original research" and "verifiability", which require that citations to sources be supplied. If possible, could you cite your sources for The Jewish community of Przedecz, Poland? Further, when on talk pages, please sign your messages by appending ~~~~. If you want something else to appear than your Wikipedia handle, you can change this through the "my preferences" link on each page in the Nickname field. Thank you. --LambiamTalk 09:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you RHaworth

Thank you for your message and suggestions, which I have already started to put into practice. I really appreciate the time you have taken to assist me. Simonschaim 13:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you Lambiam

Thank you for your message and suggestions. I shall try and cite my sources for "The Jewish Community of Przedecz Poland." Simonschaim 13:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Ok the welcome message is already here. Please follow the links. You will find an answer to your question at the bottom of my talk page. Enjoy Wikipedia! Regards, gidonb 16:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmation of permission

I haven't received your email. Could you please re-send it? Alternatively, you can send confirmation directly to Wikimedia foundation. Conscious 07:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I have deleted The Jewish community of Przedecz, Poland, but I'm willing to undelete it if I receive the confirmation. Alternatively, you can contact Wikimedia foundation directly (permissions at wikimedia dot org) asking them to undelete the article. Other administrators can undelete articles as well. Conscious 08:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, I've received it. I will undelete the article now. Conscious 10:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baruch Goldstein

Thank you for the wonderful letter. I suggest you add it to the page itself. I am not well versed on the Baruch Goldstein incident, but I did hear that a commission collaborated on the evidence given by Kach. I hope to visit Israel within the next year.

Best Regards,

Guy Montag 17:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opposition to SECULAR Zionism

I suggest that you consider the impact of answering a Humanities Reference Desk query on Jewish anti-semitism with such divisive and disparaging remarks as you made. However truly held your contentions may be, I find them grossly insulting to and disrespectful of those non-Orthodox Jewish Israelis who serve in the IDF or come (and fall) under rocket attack—as opposed to how many pious Orthodox, praying for Zion but living elsewhere?. So perhaps it's just as well that readers of the Reference Desk, many of whom are generally ignorant of Jewish/Judaic/Zionist matters (and possibly antisemitic), will read your reply. This way, they (as I) learn the reality of what someone like you thinks of someone like me. Frankly, this rejectionist stance strikes me as smacking of "Jewish antisemitism," and I'm sadder but wiser for it. -- Deborahjay (talk) 22:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Canceling an adoption

Copied from Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities

According to a report in the "Jerusalem Post" in July 1995, the mother of a boy born in England in the late 1950s was an English Catholic and the father a Kuwaiti Moslem, but they were not married. The mother gave the boy over to a Jewish couple for adoption, he was given the name Ian Rosenthal, and he was later converted to Judaism. At a later date he changed his name to Jonathan Bradley and went to the High Court in Britain to have his adoption overturned, but his application was not accepted. According to this newspaper article he intended to bring the case to the House of Lords and, if that failed, to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. Does any user know if this case came to these Courts, or that there were any other developments in this matter? Thank you.Simonschaim (talk) 18:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

In July 1995, this case had already gone to the Court of Appeal, where it's called 'B (A Minor)' [1995] EWCA Civ 48. It was heard by Sir Thomas Bingham (then Master of the Rolls, later Lord Chief Justice) and by Lords Justices Simon Brown and Swinton Thomas. Bradley was represented by the late Allan Levy QC and lost again. In a Judgement dated 17 March 1995, all three LJJ dismissed his appeal, while expressing deep sympathy with him, and they also refused him leave to appeal to the House of Lords. So it seems the Jerusalem Post somehow had the story wrong, if its report dated two months later suggests that appeals were still pending. For more detail of the case, see the bailii site here. Xn4 19:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)