Talk:Simko Shikak

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Here is the proof from 1920s [http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washttp://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/button_sig.png Your signature with timestamphingtonpost_historical/access/192649122.html?dids=192649122:192649122&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=AUG+17%2C+1922&author=&pub=The+Washington+Post&desc=PERSIAN+REBELS+DEFEATED&pqatl=google], [1],[2].Heja Helweda 02:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

He was a hero. I understand why iranis hate him! Brusk u Trishka 11:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't call him a hero. He as other kurdish rebel leaders like Sheikh Ubeidullah and Sheikh Saidi Piran were not kurdish nationalists. They were in fact often religiously motivated attacking not just religious minorities like christian assyrians or armenians, but also kurdish alevis ect. They were religious fanatics created by the vacuum after the tolerant kurdish principalities had been destroyed.

I belive they did more harm to the kurds than they did good, for example they carried out massacres that stained the kurds reputation and also created a split between muslim kurds and non-muslim kurds as for example the Alevi Dimili/zazas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.208.209.254 (talk) 20:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Regardless, he created a Kurdish state and tried to advance Kurdish identity, which makes him a national leader despite his issues. Many of his atrocities have greatly been exaggerated over time by his detractors (religious minorities have a habit of blaming their misfortunes on religious hate, though it all was about land and forcing loyalty). I'm not saying he didn't do anything, his relation to the death of the Patriarch, suppression and killing of villagers, seeking refuge with the Turks, and his marital practices were despicable and without honor. He is an influential figure, regardless of his actions, as I said though --MercZ (talk) 02:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)