Talk:Silwan

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[edit] Merge with City of David

This article and the City of David are about same location at differnet priods. At hebrew the size of City of David article was lead to sperate them, but here both are small so they should be mereged. Troll Refaim 10:44, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

No Silwan is a Palestinian neighborhood and will be in the future. They should not be merged, you can provide a link if you like to the city of david.

City of David is currently the site of an illegal Jewish settlement in Silwan. The City of David of old has nothing in common with modern Silwan but for geographic location. If the modern City of David is to be included it should be as an illegal neighborhood of Silwan. If the the old City of David is to be mentioned is should be done with links to the pages on the City of David and to any relevant archeological page.

[Addition] Even geographically, they're not the same. The City of David refers to a specific slope where the ancient city of Jerusalem was. Silwan is a newer neighborhood (built during the last 50 years or so) that is across a deep valley from the ridge of Ir David ("city of David" in Hebrew).

What??? At the most three thousand years (at least), this location was populated (The Silwan village was existed with Arab population before the 15 century). The merging has no connection with the type of population or the politics. Troll Refaim 20:11, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I, too, oppose the merging, though a "better job" should be done to link them to each other & to related topics. I agree with the earlier writer- they aren't the same geographic place. Ir-David refers only to the slope of mount moriah WEST of the kidron valley; kfar ha-Shiloah is on the western slope of "Har hamash'xit" the southern part of Mount of Olives, on the EASTern side of the kidron. The area of ir David is dubbed in Arabic "Wadi xilwe' " - =the sweet stream, alluding to the waters of the gihon spring.

today the media uses the name silwan for a much larger area, but it isn't precise. the Jerusalem municipality distinguishes between "silwan" and "wadi hilwe' " - see the maps on the iri'yah site (http://www.jerusalem.muni.il/jer_main/f1_main.asp?lng=1 , http://gisweb.jerusalem.muni.il/website/yoni/default.htm ).

The two names have completely different connotations, but they both warrant an entry. Ir David should include biblical & archaeological emphasis, with a little about the Jewish residents there. Silwan is associated primarily with the Moslem community and contemporary issues.

Shalom Shilonite 17:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely not. City of David is not the name of the town in which 45,000 Palestinians live.LamaLoLeshLa (talk) 03:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)