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I removed the following from the article because I really don't think RPG stats belong in Wikipedia. Since large numbers of these "vital stats" sections have been added to various articles, I'm using Talk:Strength level (comics) to discuss this issue in general. Bryan 08:28, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

  • Real Name: Keniuchio Harada
  • Affiliation: Big Hero 6, Clan Yashida, Japan
  • Relatives: Shingen Harada (father, deceased), Mariko Yashida (half-sister, deceased)
  • Height: 6'6
  • Wieght: 250lbs (310lbs including armor)
  • Hair: Black
  • Eyes: Brown
    • Intelligence: Above Normal
    • Strength: Peak Human (can military press 600 pounds)
    • Endurance: Peak Human
    • Stamina: Peak Human
    • Speed: Peak Human
    • Agility: Peak Human
    • Reflexes: Peak Human
    • Powers: Keniuchio has the power to channel energy through his sword, allowing it to cut through almost anything. He is a gifted swordsman and practitioner of mystic martial arts.


Uh... those aren't RPG stats. Those are Marvel Handbook listings. To describe them as RPG stats is to describe reading Marvel comics as playing an RPG.

Official handbook of the Marvel universe puts the Silver Samauri's strength as normal for a man his age, weight, and gender who engages in regular intensive exercise. Scrapper 22:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Scrapper

Lest we forget that Silver Samurai got his teleporter ring after a vicious battle with John Belushi. : D UndeniablyJordan 22:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

On the page, it claims that the Samurai can lift ten tons. Where does that come from? I haven't read all his comic appearances, but he didn't demonstrate superhuman strength in any of the ones I did read, and the Official Handbook (not always completely reliable) simply describes his strength level as 'Athlete' - which means above average for his size, but not superhuman.

If he does have it, it must be a very recent change, because he's never had it before. More likely, though, it's just fanboyish power-inflating cruft. If no citation is given after a while, just delete it. Noclevername 22:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that this counts for "a while" and so I'm deleting the super strength. I've check all the Marvel Official guides, new and old and there isn't any mention. --Tickkid 04:16, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

These piece of trivia has been highly debated: "The Silver Samurai is a fan of Lindsay Lohan, and is seen watching Mean Girls when the New Avengers come to ask for his help with Echo.[1]"

I think it should be included, because that sort of stuff is exactly what a trivia section is created for. I really don't want to get into a revert war because that is a waste of time for everyone, so here it is open to discussion. To include? Or not to include? -Freak104 18:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

This is the scene being referred to.
I don't think it's relevant at all that he happened to watch Mean Girls once.
Furthermore, why does watching Mean Girls mean he's a fan of Lohan? --DrBat 23:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I must have copied and pasted the wrong version of the deletion, because if you look at the page DrBat posted it is in fact Freaky Friday that he is watching. And if you read the stuff that Spider-Man says he is a fan. I agree that it's an unimportant part to the character, but that's why it is in trivia. Based on the edit summaries the deletions of this piece of trivia by DrBat and EconomistBR seem to be motivated by hatred for Lindsay Lohan (I don't like her either, but Wikipedia is supposed to be unbiased) and disgust that the Silver Samurai might be a fan of hers. -Freak104 00:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

No, because I think him watching it is stupid and unimportant.
And how does Spider-Man know what he likes? He was just making a joke over the movie SS was watching. --DrBat 01:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
It seems that no one else cares, so I'm going to drop the argument. DrBat, I agree with your decision to delete the entire trivia section. I was planning on doing that if no one else wanted the debatable trivia in there. Freak104 18:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
FYI, folks, Trivia sections for ANY article are highly frowned upon. Highly. I know, that's pretty cheesetastic phrasing, but it is true. Lots42 09:26, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marvel Zombies

Am I the only one that thinks that the "Marvel Zombies" section is written in a really clumsy, ugly manner? Anyone mind giving that a quick rewrite to make it easier on the eyes? Dan 00:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I rewrote it. Lots42 09:31, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cable's Two Part Limited Series, Blood and Metal

I would have added the Samurai's confrontation with Cable and Garrison Kane, only...I have no clue what was going on. I've read the two part a thousand times (pretty art) but that bit with the Samurai is confusing as blazes. Apparently Kane and Cable kill a bunch of ninjas over art?

Anyone care to pitch in? Lots42 09:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)