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Contents 1 Merge With Sikh Empire 2 Sikh Confederacy and Sikh Empire, 2 separate things 3 Sikh Conferate Empire 4 Article to be merged with Sikh Empire 5 The Flag of the Sikh Kingdom 6 Request 7 Barons and misls

[edit] Merge With Sikh Empire

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[edit] Sikh Confederacy and Sikh Empire, 2 separate things

The Sikh Confederacy was a collection of independent sovereign Sikh states whereas the formal Sikh Empire -one sovereign Sikh state under the Command of Ranjit Singh. They are two separate things. The situation, 1792AD+, is similar to China Warring States Period. 1792AD+ where one of the Kings of the states starts to conquered the other states and combine them into a single new state under his sole sovereign command, process complete on 1801 April with his coronation and official recognisation.--Sikh scholar 15:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sikh Conferate Empire

I added this section originally to highlight the military & economic power change after 1762AD. However, this I inputted into the Sikh Empire article but it clearly belongs in the Sikh Confederacy because the polictical strucure of the Sikh Confederacy was still active and in play. The formal Sikh Empire did not exist then (only existed in 1801).--Sikh scholar 15:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article to be merged with Sikh Empire

This is original research. A search on google didnt give any results on Sikh confederacy. This article should be merged with Sikh Empire and the resultant article should be appropriately named and divided into two sections, one dealing with the various Sikh kingdoms and one with the Empire. I will do it in a day or two. --Naamdar Saheb|talk to your Saab 12:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Flag of the Sikh Kingdom

The research i've done suggests that Ranjit Singh had two types of flags in operation. One political, i.e. the proto-type BLUE Nishan Sahib w/o the Khanda (which did not attain its current shape until the early 20th century http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:gWXjZ8JRT6cJ:www.westernssa.com/resources/docs/NISHAN%2520SAHIB.pdf+did+ranjit+singh+have+a+flag%3F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=19.

Second, Ranjit jad a 'war' flag, which, to quote 'two Sikh army flags in the British Museum at London, bore the symbol of Kartik - god of war (A peacock). It is clear that even in the era of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, this Khanda- symbol was not in existence or in use'.

So i my question is, what did the protype Nishan Sahib, the flag of the Sikh Kingdom, look like? Was it just a blue triangle? Or the should the flag of the Kingdom be represented by the Peacock Hindu God of War???

Please help!!

msp4realmf 20:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request

To all Sikh scholar out there, do you have access to the book “Maharaja Ranjit Singh” brought out by UBS Publishers Distributors Limited in association by says Dr Mohinder Singh, Director , National Institute of Panjab Studies. It is an illustrated book containing both the Kingdoms flag and coat of arms.

If you have access to it could you please scan the pictures and add them with the appropriate copyright dedications. Thx. msp4realmf 22:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barons and misls

I notice this and the misl article refer to Baron's. This is wrong as that designation is valid only for western Europe and Baron implies some sort of fedual state, this was not the case for the misls or the smaller groups that preceded them. I don't have any sources which refer to the chiefs as Barons

I also notice that the word misl has been replaced by army, misl is the correct term to use.

If there are no objections I will change Barons to chiefs or leaders because they weren't misldar's until much later, specific time. I will also change the word army to misl

--Nackie 01:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)