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[edit] Other Cossack / Fremen connections?

This is all OR and Speculation, but it might well be Ecyclopedic if outside sources can be found.

The name "Cossack" comes from the Turkic word qazaq, meaning "free man", and the Fremen are quite clearly "free men", in name as well as nature.

The connection can also be seen in the image of Cossacks and Fremen as more or less rogue states consisting of loosely-federated pirate-warrior groups, who, despite being "the bad guys", play major roles as defenders of their respective areas from oppression and invasion. Both later become known as elite troops of a powerful empire.

The following two quotes from the Cossack article seem (to me) to be similar to sentiments expressed in the early Dune books about the Fremen:

"The Cossacks do not swear allegiance to me, and they live as they themselves please."

"The Cossacks are not my subjects, and they go to war or live in peace without my knowledge."

Maybe I'm over-thinking it, but I thought I'd throw the idea out there and see whether anyone thought it worth further research... Paul.w.bennett 18:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Speculating even further, I wonder if the etymology of Sietch Tabr alludes to the Cossack military camp or formation, tabor (formation). —Michael Z. 2007-03-29 00:20 Z