Talk:Siegfried (opera)/Comments

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B class. This article is similar in quality to Das Rheingold and Die Walküre. As with the other article, I have 'credited' it with the information in the three Ring articles (Der Ring des Nibelungen, Der Ring des Nibelungen: Composition of the text, Der Ring des Nibelungen: Composition of the music). It could benefit from:

  • German first lines included as appropriate in the synopsis. Also, 'Noted excerpts' integrated into the synopsis.
  • A section on the critical reaction to the opera
  • A full discography including historic recordings
  • Sources and references developed. (The section now called 'Sources' should go into a background section near the beginning of the article.)

-- Kleinzach 00:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

B class. Agree with Klienzach's comments. --GuillaumeTell 21:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Low Start 34/100. I disagree with the above reviewers on fully crediting the contents of the other articles. WP:Summary makes it clear that a summary of the information should be included here as well as the more detailed analysis elsewhere.

  • Background/history of composition/discussion of plot and/or text, etc. 6/15: Most of these points are credited for the link to the composition articles, but the mention of boy who did not know fear is also credited. The detailed information belongs in the composition articles, but I would expect at least start and end dates. The lead section is also meant to be a summary, so I would expect the opera's role in the Ring cycle as a whole to be mentioned.
  • Performance history, including recent performance history and creators of roles 5/15. Need to mention recent performances and hwo rarely performed apart from a Ring project.
  • List of roles 4/5. Description of who is whose child, sibling or spouse would improve this.
  • Synopsis 6/10. I think a mention of previous events relevant to the plot will be useful and more plot informaiton here, including how Brunnhilde refers to having previously protected Siegfried, how Mime refuses to host the Wanderer and that is why he has to answer questions, how he reveals he knows Siegmund's name having denied knowing it o Siegfried etc. Also it is not properly explained that the Wanderer is the old man.
  • Notable arias etc. 4/5. List looks fairly full. I've got a box of early recordings of excerpts, so I'll see which bits are listed there. As indicated above, this list should be embedded in the synopsis.
  • Critical opinion/discussion of the music. 0/15 Not really covered at all. The extra sophistication in Act 3 should really be mentioned.
  • Recordings 0/10 not mentioned. There are some recordings of the opera separate from complete cycles. I think in the long term, there may be a full discography of the Ring including separate operas, but something should be mentioned here.
  • Illustrations, including musical illustrations 5/10. A good range of images. Musical illustrations would also be good.
  • Inline references, notes, sources, external links 4/10. A start has been made but more referencing will be needed as the article is developed. Good to have link to vocal score, but other links should be available, e.g. sites related to those mentioned at Die Walkure

--Peter cohen 09:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)