Talk:Siegfried & Roy

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The sexual orientation issue is, unfortunately, due to publicity and rumor, something that I think should be addressed in this article, and I think that short paragraph does so in an NPOV manner. Anyway the cutting of it smacks of saying "this is something we should be ashamed of." (And it was throwing off the HTML formatting. <g>) - Hephaestos 00:57, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)


I thought I dealt with it simply and honestly. Any Vegas cab driver or casino dealer will tell you that they were once lovers, and they no longer are. Anything further is nobody's business, and gayness is sufficiently old-hat, especially in Vegas, that I thought a brief mention would suffice. Mbstone 04:01, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)

With the way it's written now, I withdraw my objections. Paullusmagnus 01:29, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)


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[edit] Indexing categories

As it is now, the indexing is not working correctly. Both Siegried and Roy each have their own categories, and their individual names do not appear in the categories, rather simply Siegried & Roy under "H" or "F". What is the way to fix this problem? GilliamJF 07:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I edited the year they met to 1959, as that's what their offical website states. Also, I really think this article needs some more serious editing. I think the Steve Wynn information is false.

[edit] Merge Montecore

The Montecore article has no information that is not in this article, and no other tigers of theirs have or require articles of their own. Montecore has significance only within the context of the injury, and so because Wikipedia is not a dictionary, the name should redirect here. --Darksasami 15:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, one hundred percent. ekedolphin 08:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Montecore probably shouldn't have an article because the entire incident is covered in the Sigfried and Roy page. Wise King Otto 19:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Montecore article should redirect here. Tom NM 19:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shared living quarters?

Who shared living quarters--S and R, or S&R and Spielberg? If they do not live with Spielberg then that sentence should be separated from the other 65.166.248.38 17:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Why is the reference to living quarters here? It does not relate to the previous sentence regarding highly paid performers. Wouldn't it make more sense to place it in the third graph, which describes their relationship? For that matter, the Spielberg sentence should go in the fourth graph, which talks about their success. Tom NM 19:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Are you guys debating individual sentences on the talk page instead of just editing the article? :) Bossk-Office (talk) 02:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

"Sigfried and Roy" should redirect here. Fix please...

[edit] lovers

are the 2 of them lovers

Not anymore, say the German press. Bossk-Office 21:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

There is possibly an error in the following section:

"Horn was listed in critical condition for several weeks thereafter, and was said to have suffered a stroke and partial paralysis. Doctors removed one-quarter of his leg to relieve the pressure of his swelling brain during an operation known as a decompressive craniectomy. The portion of leg was placed in a pouch in Horn's stomagh in the hope of replacing it later"

Decompressive craniectomy is a procedure where a section of the SKULL is removed temporarily to relieve intercranial pressure from a swelling brain, NOT a section of a person's leg. That makes no sense - and the suggestion that a portion of a leg could or would be placed in a 'pouch in the stomach' is just ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.214.127.201 (talk) 14:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lovers

Unless I missed it, there is no mention in this article of their one-time romantic relationship, which seems very odd. Exploding Boy 21:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Simply because they are not so. wikiedia is not a sensational tabloid source. If they are so then how us some facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.1.175.109 (talk) 17:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

They certainly did have a romantic relationship. There is still only a mention that they ”shared living quarters”, even though they even officially came out last year. My guess is: since these are the most obvious gays in the whole world, yet were long in the closet, many fans who denied it for like half a century (!) are now so embarassed they didn’t see it that they keep editing it out of the article ... Bossk-Office (talk) 02:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Consistent naming choice for readability

Admittedly it might not have happened if I had started reading the article at the start instead of in the middle, but I found this article hard to read because I didn't know who "Fischbacher" was. I had to go all the way to the start to find out, and on the way I passed references to "Siegfried".

I would suggest that the article make a choice, and either call them "Siegfried" and "Roy" consistently, or "Fishbacher" and "Horn" consistently. The latter choice is the one that better fits with WP bios in general, but it's awkward in this article because of the fact that the act has to be called "Siegfried & Roy". So I won't express an opinion on which is the better choice, but I do really strongly suggest that a consistent choice be made. --Trovatore (talk) 22:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ah, the image policy at work

This article is almost a poster child for why Wikipedia's image policies are damaging to Wikipedia. That said it is rather fitting that the only live creature illustrated by photograph in this article is a cat. 68.146.41.232 (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POV

This whole article reads to me like a big POV problem--IMHO someone really really favorable to S&R (to put it kindly) clearly got their hands on it. Especially, I'd sure like to see some dissenting opinion about whether or not the cat incident was a real attack (I have read that many experts believe it was just that). I don't know about NPOV tags and what it takes to slap one on an article (and what that entails), so I'm just saying this here. Songflower (talk) 22:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)