Talk:Siege of Kinsale

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[edit] Date

All the references I can find through Google say the climactic battle happened on December 24th 1601. Is this a Gregorian/Julian calendar thing?Demiurge 13:23, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't know. I'm not really all that much of an expert on the time period and such. But I'd be curious to find out what happened on that date... or, rather, where the discrepancy comes from. LordAmeth 23:57, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

There was a letter in the Irish Times today making that very point.

Madam, - Brendan McWilliams (Weather Eye, April 6th) writes that the reformed Gregorian calendar of 1582 was not adopted in Britain or Ireland until 1752. He is misinformed as far as Ireland is concerned. It was used in the territories under the control of Hugh O'Neill and Hugh O'Donnell in the late 16th and early 17th centuries which is why the Battle of Kinsale was fought either on Christmas Eve, 1601 or January 3rd 1602, depending on which side you were on. The new calendar was also used by the Confederation of Kilkenny in the 1640s. - Yours, etc., GEARÓID O'SULLIVAN, Woodley House, Upper Kilmacud Road, Dublin 14.

I've noted it in the article. Joestynes 09:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Whoops! I had it the wrong way round. January 3rd would be the Catholic date, wouldn't it? Interesting that in Republic of Ireland the British date is the one usually quoted. Maybe Christmas Eve better parallels the Good Friday/Easter Monday of other significant Irish battles. Joestynes 07:37, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Article Name

Has anybody in Ireland ever heard somebody refer to the Battle of Kinsale as a 'siege'? 194.125.72.144 19:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date arís

Hirman Morgan says the English date for the battle of Kinsale is 24 December 1601. This article has October 1601. Morgan's article is here: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:fpjYF8d4focJ:www.ucc.ie/academic/history/common/download.php%3Fid%3D108+%22palesmen%22+%22nine+years+war%22&hl=ga&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ie 86.42.68.161 16:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the articles uses the dates according to the modern calendar. The English didn't use the modern calendar at the time, but the article must hence the discrepancy. Ben W Bell talk 12:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)