Talk:Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire
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"Apple Macintosh games" Is this game available for Macintosh?
I've noticed that the game retails very very high, (whereas you can get Alpha Centarui very very cheap)... does anyone know why?
- I believe the game went out of print relatively quickly, while SMAC was kept around for much longer as a budget title. Though, back in 2003, both SMAC and SMAX were bundled (along with SimCity 3000 Unlimited, C&C: Red Alert 2 and a golf game) in a package called The Laptop Collection. Unfortunately, this is now also out of print and very expensive, but it originally retailed for around $15. Since I had always wanted to play SMAX but wasn't willing to pay eBay prices for it, I nearly had a heart attack when I saw it at Gamestop. Needless to say, I bought it right then and there :) --- SHODAN 01:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
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- SMACX is difficult to find, but every now and then you can find it at retail price, as SHODAN seems to have done. Generally, you can get it on E-bay, (either stand-alone, or in the combined planetary pack) for 65 - 70 dollars, which is what I recently did. Firaxis, for some reason, chose to use EA as the publisher for SMACX, and the relationship appears to have gone badly. I don't know what their contract looked like, but it seems clear that EA must have pressured Firaxis into giving them the game before they were ready. While SMACX does add a lot of interesting content to the game, it lacks the polish of SMAC. Interface annoyances from SMAC remain - and Firaxis is usually good about cleaning this sort of thing up in its expansions. And the first rate voice acting from SMAC is nowhere to be seen in SMACX - and this adds quite a bit to the problem of new factions not being quite as interesting, fleshed out, and believable as the original factions. This scenerio, one in which Firaxis may have been left slightly unsatisfied with the quality of the product, seems to me to be the only one that would account for why they have not found a new publisher for it, but left it out of print.
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- BTW, the main article mentions a couple of bugs in SMACX. Does anyone know if the article is referring to version 2.0? In other words, are these bugs still there after the patch? Sevenwarlocks 13:57, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know the legalities of this, so I will not provide a link, but the expansion is available from an abandonware site (The Underdogs) although the version that is on there is cracked. The Underdogs are usually pretty prompt at removing anything that is still available for sale, so I would assume that the expansion being on there is a sign of it's unavailability. YnnaD 16:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge Discussion
Is there some compelling reason why expansion packs are being given their own pages? Shador5529 15:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- Don't merge. Including information about the expansion packs tends to make the articles for the parent games too long. -- SHODAN 12:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Don't merge. SMACX significantly adds to SMAC, rather than being just a bunch of "new levels" or tweaks. The compelling reason specific to SMACX is that, IMHO, it represents a sufficently different gaming experience which cannot be easily differentiated in a single merged article. Rob (Talk) 12:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- Dont merge because really not only are most expansion packs given articles but the Alpha Centauri page would become to big if we tried sticking the info there. Jamhaw 18:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)jamhaw
- Don't Merge. There's a heck of a lot of unique information in both; if anything it'd soon become a candidate for its own sub-page if it were moved. --Bobak 16:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Don't Merge. Expansion information is absolutely useless and confusing to those who play the original game without the expansion, but it is very easily accessed on a separate page by those who do. This is particularly important in the case of SMACX, because the expansion is quite difficult to find. Sevenwarlocks 13:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
