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[edit] Height?

Hmm.. Actually, as the legends go, they were more than simply tall.

There is, if my sources are correct, a 7 foot skeleton kept under storage at the Mark Twain Bookstore in Virginia City, Nevada.

But like most stories, the whereabouts of the giants disappear mysteriously. Contrary to popular scientific belief, I do very much think these Si-Te-Cah historical existed. Many of them were 6 to 6ft6 inches tall and some 7 footers were found. They had reddish hair, either stained that way from age, or because they were Caucasian.

There still exists a lower mandible and cranium of one of these alleged Si-Te-Cah found at Lovelock cave. It resides at the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca, Nevada.

Links with some photos:

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.204.61 (talk • contribs) 09:15, December 26, 2005

[edit] Myth?

Smells like bullshit to me. Wareq
That is to say: an ancient race of red-headed 2-meter natives of Nevada? N*γa, puh-leaze. Go to Uncyclopedia or the Weekly World News or something. Or at least stick in that old fake photo of a woman unearthing a "giant" skeleton. Wareq (04:00, April 25, 2006) (UTC)

I wouldn't dismiss the Si-Te-Cah as utter bunk just yet. There is enough anecdotal and historical, and even hard evidence which deserves more investigation.--207.225.65.89 18:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree, and it's amazing how this has received such little attention from archaeologists. One of these jawbones is sitting in a museum in Nevada, and it is almost twice the size of a normal jawbone. You'd think this would be something that would be well publicized. Edrigu 14:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. and the teeth themselves are much bigger than average. The rest of the skull is probably still located at the Humboldt museum there in Winnemucca. Furthermore, I've contacted some museum staff down in Reno who basically said that mummies found in Lovelock cave were handed over to the Natives for re-burial. Also, a rumor has it that an ex-museum in Virginia city Nevada still possesses the remains of a seven foot Indian skeleton with reddish hair that was found near Washoe lake in the 1930's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.65.89 (talk • contribs) 23:08, June 1, 2006

[edit] Source?

I found some very interesting info about this: http://www.internationalbigfootsociety.com/html/article.php?id=91

Here is the story by Sarah Winnemucca from her book "Life Among the Paiutes":

Among the traditions of our people is one of a small tribe of barbarians who used to live along the Humboldt River. It was many hundred years ago. They used to waylay my people and kill and eat them. They would dig large holes in our trails at night, and if any of our people travelled at night, which they did, for they were afraid of these barbarous people, they would oftentimes fall into these holes. That tribe would even eat their own dead— yes, they would even come and dig up our dead after they were buried, and would carry them off and eat them. Now and then they would come and make war on my people. They would fight, and as fast as they killed one another on either side, the women would carry off those who were killed. My people say they were very brave. When they were fighting they would jump up in the air after the arrows that went over their heads, and shoot the same arrows back again. My people took some of them into their families, but they could not make them like themselves. So at last they made war on them. This war lasted a long time. Their number was about twenty-six hundred (2600). The war lasted some three years. My people killed them in great numbers, and what few were left went into the thick bush. My people set the hush on fire. This was right above Humboldt Lake. Then they went to work and made tuly or bulrush boats, and went into Humboldt Lake. They could not live there very long without fire. They were nearly starving. My people were watching them all round the lake, and would kill them as fast as they would come on land. At last one night they all landed on the east side of the lake, and went into a cave near the mountains. It was a most horrible place, for my people watched at the mouth of the cave, and would kill them as they came out to get water. My people would ask them if they would be like us, and not eat people like coyotes or beasts. They talked the same language, but they would not give up. At last my people were tired, and they went to work and gathered wood, and began to fill up the mouth of the cave. Then the poor fools began to pull the wood inside till the cave was full. At last my people set it on fire; at the same tittle they cried out to them, “Will you give up and he like men, and not eat people like beasts? Say quick —we will put out the fire.” No answer came from them. My people said they thought the cave must be very deep or far into the mountain. They had never seen the cave nor known it was there until then. They called out to them as loud as they could, “Will you give up? Say so, or you will all die.” But no answer came. Then they all left the place. In ten days some went back to see if the fire had gone out. They went back to my third or fifth great-grandfather and told him they must all be dead, there was such a horrible smell. This tribe was called people-eaters, and after my people had killed them all, the people round us called us Say-do-carah. It means conqueror; it also means “enemy.” I do not know how we came by the name of Piutes. It is not an Indian word. I think it is misinterpreted. Sometimes we are called Pine-nut eaters, for we are the only tribe that lives in the country where Pine-nuts grow. My people say that the tribe we exterminated had reddish hair. I have some of their hair, which has been handed down from father to son. I have a dress which has been in our family a great many years, trimmed with this reddish hair. I am going to wear it some time when I lecture. It is called the mourning dress, and no one has such a dress but my family.

Edrigu 15:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent visit

I just visited the cave Saturday July 28, 2007. Might be worth starting a page called "Lovelock Cave" and merging some of the material from this page to the new one. There is a wealth of internet information about the cave site, and I have to say being there personally is a great experience! Kidshare 18:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)