Talk:Siúil A Rúin

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[edit] Great to see this here

I love this song. The best version I've ever heard was by Skylark on their 1987 'All of It' album. Len Graham's deep rich voice is unsurpassed. El Gringo 04:48, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I love Clannad's version, its so pretty. --[[User:Mitternacht90|Mitternacht90]] 02:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reeltime

The band Reeltime did a version of this with slightly different lyrics. They are as follows:

  I wish I was on yonder hill
  'Tis there I'd sit and cry my fill
  Until every tear would turn a mill
  Is go dtí tú mo mhuirnín slán

  I'll sell my rock, I'll sell my reel
  I'll sell my only spinning wheel
  For to buy my love a sword of steel
  Is go dtí tú mo mhuirnín slán

  (Chorus:)
  Siúil, siúil, siúil a rúin
  Siúil go sochair agus siúil go ciúin
  Siúil go doras agus ealaigh liom
  Is go dtí tú mo mhuirnín slán

  I'll dye my petticoats, I'll dye them red
  And round the world I'll beg my bread
  Until my parents shall wish me dead
  Is go dtí tú mo mhuirnín slán

  (Chorus)

  (Instrumental Interlude)

  And now my love has gone to France
  To try his fortune to advance
  If he e'er comes back 'tis but a chance
  Is go dtí tú mo mhuirnín slán

  (Chorus x2)

[edit] Petticoats

Why she will dye them read? What does it mean?

PS. well, is this something everybody knows but me [stupid]? --85.141.89.53 (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


In answer to the above:

According to Padraigin Ni Uallachain, singer, writer, folklorist, historian, wife of Len Graham, and native Irish speaker;

"The dyeing of petticoats indicated that the woman indicated herself as betrothed: it was a sign of loyalty to her absent lover".

This is supported with an unusual cross reference to a once-common practice concerning Leap year and marriage proposals:

"Scotland's St. Margaret is generally credited with having originated the custom, about 1288, whereby women were allowed to propose marriage on this day so long as they wore red petticoats. The Scottish Parliament went so far as to pass a law forbidding a man to reject a woman's proposal, even imposing stiff penalties for violations. Eventually it was decided that a man could refuse, as long as he brought his admirer a new pair of gloves for Easter."

This is supported by the book: "Dark Dorset Calendar Customs" by Robert J Newland

In which, he states:

"Leap Day, February 29 will soon be upon us and it's that time again to remind everyone about the age-old rules of Leap Day proposing.

Planning a marriage proposal is an anxious, yet exciting time for anyone thinking about popping the big question, and most will agree that the rules of courtship, namely the very act of proposing should be done in the proper way.

Traditionally, Leap Day is the only one true day when a lady can propose marriage; but according to custom only if she is wearing a red petticoat.

Everyone knows that when a gentleman proposes marriage it is customary for him to go down on one knee, however, in a lady's case the customary and proper procedure is for her to lift up her dress and show her red petticoats.

Red being the colour of lifeblood and has strong symbolism to love, warmth, passion and fertility.

In Roman times brides wore a red veil called a 'flammeum' as a symbolic statement of their sincere love and that they were fertile and therefore ripe for the marriage bed.

No doubt the custom of showing one's red petticoat to propose on Leap Day is a remnant from such ancient marriage customs.

Few young ladies wear petticoats these days and it's therefore hardly surprising that this aspect of Leap Day proposing has been lost.

However, one suspects that a flash of red knickers would do just as well today, and what man could refuse that!

It is worth pointing out that if on Leap Day a gentleman declines the offer of marriage, he has to pay the forfeit to buy the lady a pair of gloves for Easter."

Cadwynn MacDonald —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.13.244 (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lord of the dance

Could use a better reference for that. I hate it when I see something on TV but come up with an independent ref.Dlohcierekim's sock (talk) 01:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)