User talk:Shoteh

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[edit] Thanking for Welcome

Thank You very much for your nice Welcome massage.Shoteh (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Glad you're here! Also, when you get the chance, check out WikiProject Plants and consider joining us. Rkitko (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Etrog Talk Page

Etrog is not a certain cultivar within citrus medica, but is how the Jews are calling it, according to the special use during Tabernacles. The Greek Citron is actually called variety etrog, but in fact many other varieties ( for e.g. the Diamante) are even preferred by many.Shoteh (talk) 17:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I did a bit of investigating a while ago, but I never got a clear picture of whether it was a cultivar or simply a variety. Either way, the taxobox should be updated to reflect that. Is it Citrus medica var. etrog? Or is it Citrus medica 'Etrog'? Sources were conflicting, though. Something must be done to the taxobox, though, to make it plain and simple to see that it is not Citrus medica. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I see. So from your info above, Etrog is neither a named cultivar or a published taxon? So then the taxobox should be removed entirely if it's not a taxon. Rkitko (talk) 17:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Rkitko, You are probably right about the matter but I don't find the box which fitt the purpose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoteh (talk • contribs) 18:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
That's ok. It's not such a big deal. I'm sure it will get fixed some day. You seem to have a good knowledge of the citrons, so I'll leave it in your capable hands! Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 19:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I placed an image at Diamante citron and the very important caption doesn't show up. I would appriciate if you can fix it. Shoteh (talk) 20:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Done. It was just missing the "thumb" parameter from the image link. --Rkitko (talk) 20:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much Shoteh (talk) 20:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. And just to let you know, most people prefer new messages on their talk page to go at the bottom, at least that's the trend I've seen. And you don't need to create a new thread every time. I simply moved all your messages to one of the threads you started at User talk:Rkitko#Etrog Talk Page. A minor point, but thought I'd mention it. :-) Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 20:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Please {{helpme}} get a translation of the latin text from Giovanni Baptista Ferrari regarding the Diamante citron, as well as the same about the Greek Citron in the following page.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoteh (talk • contribs)

Hmm, does an official translation of the text exist? Wikipedia prefers official translations. Doing it yourself can be a violation of some policies and guidelines (like no original research - it also isn't very verifiable since your translation may differ from someone else's). Are you asking for help finding such a translation? Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange might be the place to ask for help regarding such a resource. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] High Capacity Files

Hi there! You mentioned on my talk page that you have some computer files which are copies of an "old book not available for sale." It is acceptable to cite books in wikipedia articles. Sources need not be just websites. As long as the book is a reliable source then feel free to go and cite it. The templateCite book is a great way to do this (instructions are on the page). If you need any more help please feel free to post here or on my talk page. Best regards! --omtay38 01:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hello, maybe you are the user with the nickname fr:Utilisateur:Yeshiva witch is creating articles about etrog in the french wikipedia. Anyway i requested the speed delation of those articles cause they were translated automatically. I will try to translate them correctly latter cause they are realy interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimdime69 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not. Thank You for the offer to transelate my articles, your massage sounds like transelated from French.

Shoteh (talk) 22:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Well they are translated in my brain from french to english but hopefully I don't need an authomatic translator to do such a thing;) Anyway I do apologize for the mistake and will try to translate those articles asap. Best regards--Kimdime69 (talk) 22:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Please remove those interwiki links, as authomatic translation is not acceptable those articles will be delated in thew minutes, I will add new links when the articles will be recreated and translated correctly. Regards--Kimdime69 (talk) 22:46, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Candied fruit

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Candied fruit. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.Freepsbane (talk) 17:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

My apologies for the misunderstanding I did not see the discussion sorry for your trouble. if you have any more comments you can post them on my talk page Freepsbane (talk) 17:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting pages from Wikipedia:Requested moves

Don't do this again. Llamasharmafarmerdrama (talk) 23:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Talk:Diamante Citron

I would help if I could, but I'm not an admin so I can't do anything about it. I guess you could try using {{helpme}} but unless an admin notices it, you won't get what is needed. I think the best solution is to wait longer or ask an admin directly.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 04:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, not that I know of. You can try my friend User:Seresin and say that I suggested asking you. He's really nice, I'm sure he'll help if he's not busy.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 23:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Really? I guess it does work sometimes. Well I'm glad it you found what you needed, sorry I couldn't help you on it.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 19:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD proposal

[edit] AfD nomination of Chaim Elozor Wax

An article that you have been involved in editing, Chaim Elozor Wax, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chaim Elozor Wax. Thank you. Smerus (talk) 21:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bizzaria

You removed the category Botany for this article, with the argument that it is too broad, and citrus is enough. This is not true since bizzaria is a historical case in understanding of botany and hybridization, as you can see Charles Darwin and all the genetists were busy with the Bizzaria. In fact, the category Botany is even more important than the category Citrus, and please recorrect yourself. Shoteh (talk) 20:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I stand by my reason. Look at the other articles in Cat:Botany. Categorization is supposed to be used as a hierarchy. I don't believe that Bizzaria is a general topic of botany. Categorization is supposed to be as specific as allowed. Bizzaria should not remain in that category. WP:CAT will have the appropriate guidelines for categorization. --Rkitko (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Halichos Sadeh.pdf listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Halichos Sadeh.pdf, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? RichardΩ612 Ɣ |ɸ 18:13, May 6, 2008 (UTC) 18:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PDF IfD

Firstly, I wasn't aware of the link due to it being in external link format, like this, and not in wikilink format, like this. I fail to see the relevance that the document has to the article [although I cannot read Hebrew, PDF documents are not usually useful]. After all, this is the English Wikipedia; the Hebrew Wikipedia may have more use for it. Regardless, please feel free to make your opinion known on the IfD page. Thanks. RichardΩ612 Ɣ |ɸ 17:04, May 8, 2008 (UTC)

This article is by a high esteemed professor and horticulturist, which is written in Hebrew because the most interested in citron studies are the Hebrew speaking Jews. But when one wants to know anything about the citron which was the ancestor of all the cultivated types he would have no access to it. The English Wikipedia is the first to provide such infomation of which part of it is gathered from Hebrew sources, and was later cited by many other authors and websites. By deleting such a pdf, which is a very important and interesting article, you are decreasing the usefullness of the English Wikipedia, and banging the door for the citrus industry in Wikipedia. Dont do such an evil.

Shoteh (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greek citron

Good morning. How wide is your browser window? If it's wide enough for the table of contents to fit between the two images, then Greek citron looks OK, although unusual. Make it narrower, and the table of contents either overlaps the first image, or is partly hidden behind the second. I tried it in two different browsers. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I confirm that the picture arrangement is fine now.

You twice removed the copy edit tag without improving the article. Please do not do this; it is a marker to other users of Wikipedia to acknowledge that an article is still a work in progress.

In the case of this article, just looking at the first sentence:

  • the first appearance of the article title should be in bold text according to the Manual of Style;
  • "it's" in line 2 should not have had an apostrophe;
  • there is no such word as "rituali"; and
  • "extraordinary" is one word, not two.

I've copy edited the whole of the first paragraph; please let me know whether my changes are acceptable to you. I am willing to go through the rest of the article when I have time; it's what I do best! - Fayenatic (talk) 21:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanking Back

Thanks for you! It is a pleasure to work together with you! Critisizer (talk) 21:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)