User talk:Shoreranger

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[edit] Lenape

I'm reasonably sure of this edit I made, at History of New York City (prehistory-1664), but given your previous edit, I'd appreciate if you check it and tell me if I misunderstood. - Jmabel | Talk 17:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

This seems very good, though I had not noticed before there is no explanation of "Munsee" and, as used here, should be noted as the "Munsee dialect", as opposed to the Unami dialect also spoken by the Lenape. Nice work.--Shoreranger 00:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fordham question?

Hi, no offense meant, but do you work for Fordham? It seems that most of your edits are Fordham-related. Thanks, --AW 11:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

None taken. I do not work for Fordham. Just seems to be a lot to do on that article before I want to move on to too much else. Limited time and energy and all that.... Shoreranger 20:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah OK, thanks --AW 15:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Please stop tagging Fordham University on articles. For alumni, the appropriate category is "Fordham University alumni" and many of the pages you have edited already listed this so your edits on those pages were redundant and unnecessary. Gdo01 23:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know that you do good work on the Fordham page. I always watch the page (among others) and it's good to see that someone is maintaining it well. Scskowron 02:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of 3 images uploaded to Fordham University

I must say that I do not agree with your decision to delete all three of the images that I uploaded to the Fordham University page. I took quite a few good pictures at the University on Tuesday. FYI, I'm the person who uploaded the existing images of the main entrance and the interior of the Rose Hill gym that appear on the page. I was a student at Fordham when they had the best basketball team in the school's history during the 1970-1971 academic year. I like to return to the campus every once in a while to reminisce on days done by. The new parking garage is almost finished, and the space occupied by the current outdoor parking lots will be used for new building construction after the garage has been completed. I was notified by security that Fordham University no longer permits photography on the campus. The world has certainly changed since 9/11.

Just out of curiosity, are you a Wikipidia sysop or Fordham moderator? This is the first time that I've had an image deleted on the enclyclopedia, and I upload a LOT of pictures.

Anthony22

[edit] Evacuation Day

Hi Shoreranger,
I am fairly new to Wikipedia, but am fairly knowledgeable about New York's history wherever it has something to do with this particular branch of the Riker family. I have made some changes to the Evacuation Day (New York) topic which I hope clarifies any problem you might have with John Van Arsdale's rank or age. The real myth regarding the raising of the flag over the battery (I have never come across the "Bowling Green" reference before but will asume that you have access to material which I do not - I believed at the time the pole was at the battery and that in 1883 that was the structure at that place), seems to be that it was raised by a boy. I strongly recommend that you read Clifton Hood's essay (which is easy to get online) and James Riker's work if you can find it (out of print, expensive to purchase and not online). Clifton Hood's social history essay is a great analysis of class relations in New York throughout the 19th century as well as being an excellent account of the events surrounding the Evacuation itself.
I'm not sure whether my changes are properly Wikified but I am sure that that will get sorted out in time
Regards
John Tierney 00:06, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Fordham

I agree with your position on the "Irish American" question, though I am not crazy about the category too much. Note the link I cited, and the fact that Fordham has an Irish-American center. I don't like ethnic pigeonholing, but it strikes me as a tad disingenuous to argue that Fordham is not Irish in character.--Mantanmoreland 15:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Re your comment: Yes, Harvard was the quintessentially WASP school, and Fordham was the institution of choice when Irish and dogs were not permitted on its campus as you know.--Mantanmoreland 17:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander Hamilton

You don't recall seeing the subsidy of the United States Gazette?

Like most of your demands for citation, the answer's in the first source I looked at. (It is possible that a majority of your requests have been in the footnote at the end of the sentence; but that's another issue.)

I am genuinely puzzled. What do you read on the subject? The Hamilton literature is deplorable, even for American historiography; but even Chernow's pile of toad-eating would have supported all of these things before he attempted to justify them. (If you want to read something, try Mitchell; he deeply admired Hamilton, but he was both fair-minded and literate; it may help that he was a professor of economics.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I see; you read neo-Federalist journalism. Aside from that, you have indicated nothing.

Hamilton's actions were not unique; but they were unparallelled in his own time. Hamilton supported Fenno with the full advertising account of the Treasury and his own funds. Two years later, Jefferson invited Philip Freneau to Philadelphia, and gave him a job as a translator for the State Department; while it was reasonable to expect that he would start another paper, Jefferson paid for it neither officially or personally. When Hamilton attempted to make a scandal about this, his dealings with Fenno came out, and the entire attack was derailed; so this is not simply the present, but the contemporary, judgment. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Floyd Bennett Field

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[edit] Fordham article

Okay thanks for the message. I have posted my opinion on the Fordham talk article. Scskowron 19:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Good call. I would also consider Fordham to be the first Catholic college in the region, but I just included that word to be more specific. Scskowron 01:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] O-Z history

If you doubt the historic demographics of Ozone Park, I suggest you cite your sources. Goodfellajohnny 23:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I know the rules are to cite everything, but I figured I would add what I know and what I've been taught, seeing as I'm from the neighborhood and have been told the history by other families. Goodfellajohnny 12:28, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please join

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[edit] Fordham Theatre Company

About your questioning of my edit to the Theatre section of the Fordham University page. . . . I will set aside the sneaking suspicion I have about copyright violations of text from the Fordham webpage for the moment. I graduated from the Theatre department, and I can tell you this: Further on in that same paragraph, it reads, "Each student has the opportunity to work on four faculty- or guest-directed mainstage productions and up to twenty-five student-directed and student-written studio theatre productions per year" (http://www.fordham.edu/theatre/trai_curr_1b.htm, emphasis added). This is an accurate statement, and better reflects the actual practices in place within the Theatre department. Company method typically dictates that the members of the company fill every open role (from acting to hanging lights), design the productions, and select the productions as a group. At Fordham's Theatre department, every theatre major does not work on every single main stage production, and—while the students may suggest plays for production on the main stage—the final decision-making process does not include student voting. Students are required to complete so many "lab hours" per semester (working load-ins, strikes, in the costume shop, as assistant stage managers, shop crew, etc.) in order to remain in good standing within the department, and may audition for parts in the shows, but that does not mean that everyone works together on every production presented at the school. The phrasing before my edit implied that all students worked collectively on all Theatre department productions, which is not the case. That said, your link to the Fordham Theatre Department web site can remain, and I hope you will respect my edits in the future.--BFDhD 19:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fordham Student Publications

Thanks for catching my error on the Fordham page. I didn't read the title - I thought the section was for all Fordham publications, not just student ones. Scskowron 22:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Academic dress

I understand your point regarding the American Council on Education using a brown/gray version of "Drab", and not a green. That was never really the issue for me. Half the confusion was caused by the way you link the color in the article. You seem like an experienced editor so I wouldn;t expect to have to explain this to you... but I guess I should give ignorance the benefit of the doubt so here goes.
If you set up a link from within wikipedia... it is not necessary to reference the entire URL. You simply put the page name in double brackets with a pipe seperating the alais you want to give that link on the page. For instance, Drab can simply be replaced with Drab. Somebody has already fixed it on the page.
Seeing as how the link was set up hapahazardly and it was uncited... can you blame me for assuming it was an invalid entry.--Dr who1975 17:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trick-or-treating

Can you present documentation that there was trick-or-treating on the East Coast before World War II? I haven't found any. — Walloon 01:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hessians

Hey there. I see you replaced the Hessian component in the belligerents section of the infobox on Battle of Harlem Heights. I think that while it is technically true that the Hessians were involved, there's not much reason to separate them out from the British. There were lots of militias involved on the American side, but for this battle, we can lump them all together into the Continental Army. Perhaps if we can figure out the numbers, we can put them in the strength section (see Battle of Long Island. However, to argue your side, if you look at Battle of Fort Washington, there is Hessians in the belligerents section. Perhaps we should bring something up on the project space to standardize this? What do you think? (I'm going to post this same speech on the article talk page) Tan | 39 01:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander Hamilton mediation

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[edit] Alexander Hamilton/PMA

Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate them. Unfortunately, his tactics have worked. I am exhausted. I will not however, go away. I think you're right. I just wish he would stick to the facts and above all, just be civil. I tried to flood him with kindness at first, but that only seemed to make things worse somehow. I'm afraid I lost my cool over time, so I am going to spend some time regaining it. I wish he would set aside his POV, answer direct questions, spend a little more time on his own edits, and drastically less nit-picking those of others, etc. However, sadly, none of those things seem even remotely likely. Responding to things PMA accuses you of in his passive-aggressive way is an exponential time-wasting problem--every accusation I refute brings up three more, and on, and on, and on it goes. I don't have as much time as he does. I hope the article gets new blood. If you know anyone who might be willing to make it a project, please let them know. The article needs all the help, all the new editors it can get. Anyway, thanks again. AdRem (talk) 00:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for the Barnstar! I hadn't even noticed it! I hope you will still do some work on the article, it needs a lot of help. In any case, have a great weekend! AdRem (talk) 22:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)