Talk:Short message service

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I archived the old talk page - it's available here. By the time anyone reads this, I should have copied all the tags in that old page into here too. Carre 19:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article is extremely GSM-biased.

{{NPOV}} short SMS existed on AMPS in the 1990's and on all other digital technologies. They are rarely mentioned.This comment, unsigned, taken from the archived talk page. Carre 19:46, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Since SMS was invented as part of the GSM standard, it makes sense that the article would focus on GSM, no? Also, do you have a reference for SMS on AMPS in the 1990's? I thought it was only on digital. Billgordon1099 (talk) 17:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split suggestion

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

I would like to suggest that this article be split into 2 - 1 article called "Text messaging" or something similar, which deals with the social phenomonomonomonomon that is Texting, and this article dealing with the Short Message Service itself, from a telecoms perspective. Numerous reasons for this:

  • This article as it is is something like 36k in size, so needs splitting anyway;
  • The style of the article, as mentioned numerous times in the talk archive, is all over the place. I feel this is exacerbated by the mix and match between the social aspects of texting, and the actual service in the telco world;
  • Wikilinks - many of the wikilinks that point to this article are actually trying to link to an article on Texting, not an article on the Short Message Service.
  • Personal - I have no interest in the social aspect, but a fair bit in the technical aspects and history;
  • Maintenance - the social aspects seems to attract a load of link spam, so best have it elsewhere in an article I don't look at ;)

Anyway - you can vote, oppose, approve, ignore, whatever; depending on the response to this, I'll either try to split (and probably dismally fail), or not. Thanks. Carre 20:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Support for several reasons. The social and technical aspects are separate - I too am far more interested in the technical than the social, and feel the piecemeal way in which the social aspects are handled gets in the way of a potentially good technical article. Indeed the social aspects could be common to other technologies (MMS, Chat,...) some of which could be combined, others which could not. I am not sure how the split might be handled, since "text messaging" may or may not be the right term for the split, but in principle I agree. SMeeds 21:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Support - this article doesn't have a focal point, we need an article that's about the SMS and one that's about "Text messages" or "Text messaging". There should be a link using one of the {{redirectx}} templates to the messages article from the technical SMS one. Yonatan talk 22:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
It was suggested that this article be split into 2, keeping the technical aspects in situ and moving the social aspects over the top of the currect redirect page Text messaging. The consensus was to do the split. Carre 13:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The split has been done, at a very basic level. There's still a bit too much commonality between the 2 articles for my liking, but I've pruned it a fair bit on both articles. Next step is to go through the several hundred articles that link here, and check to see if they really want the Text messaging article. Help appreciated on doing that, cos it'll take ages on my own. Carre 14:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GSM Technical section

I do believe I've finally got the Short message service technical realisation (GSM) article done! Anyone can feel free to go hack it about. What I'm not sure about is whether or not to move the content up to the main article once the split happens (I'll be doing the split in a couple of days, if there aren't any objections by then), or to leave it as a sub-page and paraphrase it in the main article. I think the latter may be more appropriate, because eventually I hope to either see technical sections on the ANSI and AMPS implementations added by subject matter experts, or I'll go off and read up on those technologies and do those sections myself. Opinions? Carre 21:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SMS != Test messaging

Regarding this edit, text messaging and SMS are not the same thing. SMS is a specific protocol, and there are other text messaging implementations that are not SMS-based. Jpatokal 15:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

You're confusing the importance of the technical definition of jargon with the common vernacular of the English-speaking world. If Wikipedia were the GSM specification, or a technical reference for a technical audience, then you'd be absolutely correct in pointing this out. The vast majority of the world understands an "SMS" to mean a "mobile phone text message", without regard for the protocol or the implementation actually used on their phone. Reswobslc 16:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I have reverted Reswobslc's changes, and I have done so for a very specific reason. Look back up in this talk section a couple of lines, and you'll see the requested split consensus. Basically, the original article here was an utter mess, mixing up the technical details with the social aspects. World wide (note, NOT N. American specific), the common term is texting, or text messaging. The Short Message Service is, always has been, and always will be, the means by which text messages are sent. There is a very deliberate stub template in the article for people who know about non-GSM implementations to come along and add their knowledge to the technical aspects. In the meantime, the Text messaging article is the place to talk about "texting", from a non-technical perspective, whereas this article is where the technical details should go. I've tried, at the top of this article, above the lead, to point people looking at the social aspects to the right place, but it seems not to be working. If this crap carries on, I'm inclined to just revert everything to the original article, and let everyone else sort out the resulting abortion of an article. Carre 16:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Free SMS

Now there's a way to send SMS from your computer for free it's called <link deleted by User:Carre>

Thank you - Wikipedia is not an advertising agency, nor a link farm. Carre 17:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I genuinely would like to know about the SMS-from-internet service: googling comes up with a lot of sites, and I imagine they're mostly spammers/cowboys. It would be useful to have some discussion of whether this is true. 131.111.164.120 09:53, 24 August 2007 (UTC) If you want to see such a thing just go to history .. :) Ebricca 19:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

You can send an SMS message to any mobile phone using AIM, sending to the screen name +1(areacode)(phonenumber). sending a text message to "+18185551212" would send it to (818) 555-1212. Don't know if mentioning this counts as advertizing for AIM... 64.169.124.76 (talk) 23:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fast SMS

I thought i read this expression once for the *number*code# service that some cellphone providers offer to get specific services like the ?flash sms display that is sent back as example for the money you still have on your cell account (as example *121*# in this case) or entering *131*code# for the recharging of your prepaid cell or *111*telnumber# to have a callback solution if you are in a roaming area to get cheaper calls .. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebricca (talk • contribs) 19:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

These codes are Unstructured Supplementary Service Data (USSD) messages which aren't that similar to SMS. They're fire and forget messages, no SMSC involved. There can be mobile and network initiated ones, which do a variety of things. A set of USSD codes are defined in standards for performing certain functions, and network operators have the option of using spare ones for their own purposes. Actually, that USSD article looks pretty poor, and needs some work... maybe I'll go and clean it up some time, if I can be bothered. Carre 06:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

The story about e2sms seems a bit peripheral. People visiting this topic arguably want to read about the history of SMS itself, not various dot-com era companies and marginal business models. Perhaps digressions of this nature merit their own page, especially as SMS gateways merit their own topic anyway. 129.240.235.122 11:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I've pretty much abandoned this article these days - it's so much a spam magnet that I just got fed up with it; however, the recent addition of speedy-delete requests and other templates has made me address this issue. The huge e2sms chunk is now replaced with a single sentence. Carre 07:39, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Following taken from [1]. I wonder why this Wikipedia article doesn't mention Matti Makkonen at all. He is known as the inventor of the text messaging service, after all.

History
The inventor of SMS is a Finnish civil servant by the name Matti Makkonen who then worked for a state-owned postal and telecommunications company Posti (Finland). He presented the idea in a pizzeria in Copenhagen, during a conference of mobile phone communication's future in fall of 1982. Today M. Makkonen is the CEO of Finnet. Initially conceptualized as Message Handling Services, SMS was proposed to be included in the GSM digital mobile phone standard as early as in 1984 by the Nordic Countries (in GSM WP3, a group chaired by J. Audestad). SMS was further discussed in the main GSM Group in February 1985 and it was included in the draft GSM spec (GSM Doc.28-85) the same year. The technical standard known today was largely created by IDEG's Draft Group on Message Handling in 1987–1990, first chaired by Friedhelm Hillebrand. The first commercial short message was sent on 3 December 1992 by Neil Papworth of Sema Group from a personal computer to Richard Jarvis of Vodafone on the Vodafone GSM network in the United Kingdom. SMS was originally designed as part of GSM, but is now available on a wide range of networks, including 3G networks. However, not all text messaging systems use SMS, and some notable alternate implementations of the concept include J-Phone's SkyMail and NTT Docomo's Short Mail, both in Japan. E-mail messaging from phones, as popularized by NTT Docomo's i-mode and the RIM BlackBerry, also typically use standard mail protocols such as SMTP over TCP/IP, not SMS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigmundur (talk • contribs) 20:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The majority of the above quoted text was taken from an old version of this very Wikipedia article, as it happens. See /archive1#History for the reason Makkonen's name was removed. Carré (talk) 12:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recent non-technical additions

As this article states at the top, this is about the technical aspects of the Short Message Service, not the social aspects. All of the recent additions belong, if anywhere (and if not copy-vio as some of it appears to have been), in the Text messaging article. I also have a bit of concern about the similarities of the three user names who have been posting this stuff. Anyway, here's the stuff that was added, to be either put back here if people disagree, or to be moved to the more appropriate article (watch out for nowiki tags if you do though). Carre 15:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Text

== Impact on linguistics ==

The popularity of mobile phone and SMS has impacts on the language standard varieties and conventional linguistic. [1] Doing research in Finland, there is a high population of mobile phone and SMS users, Kasesniemi (2003) [2] observes that “the wider the phenomenon has spread, the more discussion it has aroused in the Finnish media concerning its influence on the language and, most notably, the written expression of teenagers.” Many young users of SMS now write the abbreviation and symbol rather than standard language. Such as some SMS language "Homework" is "hw", "Got to go" is "g2g" or "gtg". [3] The emergence of a new language form tailored to the immediacy and compactness of these new communication media.

Concern has been raised about the effect of text messaging on adolescents' writing style at school. [4] In particular, the frequency of errors in grammar and SMS language often appears to student's homework or examination. Judith Gillespie, development manager at the Scottish Parent Teacher Council, said: “There must be rigorous efforts from all quarters of the education system to stamp out the use of texting as a form of written language as far as English study is concerned” [5]

== Impact on Lifestyle ==

SMS has a wide impact on lifestyle. People find it easier to send a text message rather than meeting face-to-face, or calling in most cases. The reason being, it is convenient and flexible to send a text message rather than trying to meet up with someone across a long distant. The flexibility lies with the availability and knowing that almost everyone has access to SMS.


SMS are not only used within a social aspect. Advertising is done through this medium as well. Businesses send short SMS’s when promoting a new product. Nightclubs, dating services and football updates use this as a means to reach out to the public. Stuart J. Barnes, author of Mbusiness: The Strategic Implications of Mobile Communications defines the term “opt-in”, which is a scheme which “involves the user agreeing to receive advertising before anything is sent, with the opportunity to change preferences or stop messages at any time”. Advertising in such a way also becomes a privacy issue to consumers, which restricts advertising being vast and reachable to absolutely everyone. There is also a high degree of acceptance with the fact that a mobile phone is readily accessible rather than television or radio, considering that the message sent is by a trusted source. They find this acceptable that most media, such as magazine inserts, direct mail and telemarketing sales (Barnes, 2003).

=== Text Messaging Culture ===

SMS was indeed a true newcomer[6] In fact, our society is erupted by the practices of text messaging. SMS is largely used by many people and in many countries. As Rheingold[7] discuss the his experience at Shibuya Crossing of Tokyo, he points out that "the practice of exchaning short text messages via mobile telephones has led to the eruption of subculture in Europe and Asia". (2002;xi) This practice of text messaging are rapidly spread out to the young users, teenagers, and which contributed to create the youth culture. Kasesniemi notes that "the messages became communication for all and their contents came to deal with everyday ife" [8]


In the Study of Finnish and their practices of SMS, Kasesniemi and Rautiainen notes that the culture of text messaging have been quickly formed between teenagers and this culture grows out of unique circumstatces of teenage life [9]


SMS allows young people to create their own shrared culture which is distinction from the so called general culture dominated by adults. As Goggins (2006) talks that "Texting became involved in a wider reworking of youth culture, involving other new media form and technologies and cultural developments". (2006;74)

== Texting and Smart Mobs ==

Since the introduction of texting and a phenomenon at Shibuya Crossing, one theme seems to be widespread and well-known after that, Smart Mobs. Smart mobs is an example of the extension in the use of mobile phone. No more a simple phone functioned only for making a call. A phone can now be used as a tool to gather people together and perform actions.

The people who make up smart mobs cooperate in ways never before possible because they carry devices that possess both communication and computing capabilities. [10] They can connect and link to each other, exchange information, and form a virtual community. New media allow people to have more freedom and be able to do things that old media couldn’t provide, for example, texting 100 people within a click. Group of people using these tools will gain new forms of social power, new ways to organize their interactions, and exchanges just in time and just in place. [11] Human’s life starts to change within this world of interactive media. Some of these changes are beneficial and empowering, and some amplify the capabilities of people whose intentions are malignant. [12]

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[edit] Security

SMS Security In reviewing SMS/TEXTING on Wikipedia, I find it to be very slack on security. I hope we can expand it to address this issue. I have information in several links on my PC that I will attempt to compile and record here.

In particulur we need to address

Latency

Reliability

Theft

Impersonation

Diversion

Persistance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.202.204 (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 0898513662

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[edit] hi

hi how are u —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.65.136 (talk) 10:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)