Talk:Shockwave (Transformers)
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[edit] Manufacturer
G1 Shockwave and Omega Supreme were both created by Takara, then licensed by Hasbro.
Omega Supreme's original form was part of the Diaclone line, which also carried the Jumpstarters (Topspin and Twin Twist), 1984-85 Autobot Cars, and 1984-85 Decepticon Planes (Starscream, etc.). Shockwave was created by built by a third company (I can't remember their name), who also handled the electronics part of his toy. Hasbro and Takara were both able to license him without causing conflicts through their competitors. G1 Galvatron appeared to use the same electronics package as Shockwave, but carries the Takara and Hasbro names only. I don't think licenses would be a cause for too many problems, since Shockwave was able to be duplicated as an Action Master in 1990. (Action Master Shockwave is a sculpting of his robot form as a 3.75-4" action figure.) A similarly licensed Jetfire could not be similarly reproduced and was "approximated". Skyfall's body was sculpted of parts seeming to come from both the Jetfire toy and the animated form of Skyfire. --Cybertronian 02:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Omega Supreme was never any part of the Diaclone line and was made by ToyBox which had no connection to Takara. Toybox also designed the SkyLynx toy. Shockwave also has no Japanese connection at all and is the best known original Korean toy robot. During the 70's and 80's it was illegal to import Japanese toys into Korea. The Koreans were very skillful in copying Japanese toys because of this so they usually did not spend a lot of time coming up with new designs. Shockwave is the exception to the rule. What you have to understand is that the Transformers, like the Micronauts and Shogun Warrior before them, is just a conglomeration of successful existing toys and lines to make a quick buck in the American toy market. All of these were made and marketed better and earlier overseas.
--tlhowell1970 15 October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.199.126.139 (talk) 01:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ethics
he is responsible for unethical experiments on transformers, both friend and foe
Anyone know where this comes from? I'm not saying it couldn't be true, but what I remember is that in the cartoon he mostly just did as Megatron told him to do, and in the comic he was mostly a danger to Megatron as he was after his job. --Plicease 10:03, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Possibly the tech specs? Although I really think they should be separate again. Timrollpickering 00:40, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
is this really - Shockwave??? o.0 I'm watching Energon now and there is Shockwave, absolutely another transformer. and this one is Laserwave!!
Jayhawk88 21:11, 1 December 2005 (UTC) I might be mistaken, but I believe those first two paragraphs are taken almost verbatim from an old Marvel Comics "Who's Who" issue of the Marvel Transformers universe. The "All too often he finds the answer" in particular seems to ring a bell. Not sure if this is a big deal or not; is this sort of thing allowed?
- Why the push to keep the number of sections and subsections low? Not like they cost anything, and they are useful in categorizing information. When someone is looking up Armada Shockwave, should they have to look in Energon for a side mention of him, or just look under Shockwave subsection Armada? Expecially since Micron Shockwave IS NOT the same character as Energon Shockwave. user talk:mathewignash
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- It's a desire to keep the page simple and tidy, as it were. I can't get behind creating a sub-header for one or two sentences of information that could easily be included elsewhere, avoiding another subsection and another notch on a growing categories table. On top of that, it's much about keeping the info compact as it is about keeping the visual appearance of the page appealing and continuously coherent - I strongly dislike looking at a page that's chopped up into teensy-tiny un-aesthetic little scraps of categories, and I usually *hate* those giant empty spaces that result from a CLEAR=ALL. But, see, now that the Armada section's been bulked up a bit so that it's got enough content to make it worth reading on its own, it's fine.
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- That said, however... if you want to look up "Armada Shockwave"? Go and look up "Armada Tidal Wave." Same character, and that's where you'll find actual information about him. Generally speaking, I'm not into cross-referencing homages for names from Japan... like, say, Armada Perceptor (don't know if this on Bumblebee's page or not). Y'know, you add a one-line subcategory for Armada that says "see Perceptor, 'cause in Japan, he was named after Bumblebee." It's just a question of finding where to draw the line on how much sheer minutae to go into, you know? As this is an English-language reference, I'm not really into the idea of the specifics of Japanese names - I just list the Japanese name was in parentheses at the start, and leave it at that, so that's why I did not originally make anything of the fact that Shockwave is Tidal Wave's Japanese name when I originally wrote up this page, since if you want to read about Tidal Wave and the fact he was named Shockwave... go read Tidal Wave's page, y'know?. You don't, for example, see Micron Legend Rampage listed on the "Rampage" page, do you? Because he's already covered on the Wheeljack page, with his alternate name mentioned, as they're the same character. Although, this is a really small-scale argument anyway, 'cause it's not as if there are THAT many characters in Japan who re-use the American names of unrelated characters, eh? Bumble, Rampage, Arcee... um. Drawing a blank. :) - Chris McFeely
[edit] Picture
The picture in the infobox is wrong. Shockwave's gun is on the wrong arm! In the infobox he has a left hand and a gun instead of a right hand, while he normally has a right hand and a gun instead of a left hand. What gives? -- Ritchy 16:51, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- That was the box art. Box art if often wrong. user:mathewignash
- The American box art was reversed, with the picture being altered, not to match the toy/character, but rather the trend of having said character pose on the familiar right side of the box. The Japanese #49 "Laserwave" box discards the tradition — switching to the left side — in order to have accuracy in advertising. -- Cybertronian 22:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
He appeared in More Than Meets The Eye (Part 1), Transport To Oblivion, Roll For It, Divide And Conquer, The Ultimate Doom: Part 3 - Revival, Countdown To Extinction, The Autobot Run, Desertion Of The Dinobots Part 1, Desertion Of The Dinobots Part 2, The Search For Alpha Trion, The Key To Vector Sigma Part 1, The Key To Vector Sigma Part 2, War Dawn, Starscream's Brigade, The Revenge Of Bruticus, Transformers: The Movie.
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