Talk:ShixxNOTE

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This article was nominated for deletion on 6 January 2005. The result of the discussion was keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.

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[edit] Copyvio problem and delation of talk page???

I am one of editor of article ShixxNOTE LAN Messenger This talk page did not violate any copyright lows, it is original discussion - so why it is deleted??? Dear admins, 1st, when original copyowner of one program want to put text on web page, like shixxnote.com , and it is about program that in google is described on 1,160 pages, it means it is valuable something. When someone delete talk page of article, on whom it is asked for reason - that is in general a problem. page in one magazine was for sure not original source of info for deleted page - because similar info could be foun on more than 1000 pages on the net. The text you deleted with reason of copivio was make from scratch based on original program page - shixxnote.com and instead of deleting talk page, what is in fact vanity, admins should give reason and found out who have copyright. If for instance, original author of the program give rights to wikipedia to base text on press releases, you should explain the procedure, not speed delate talk page. IMHO. --Shixx 13:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

"original copyowner of one program" Actually, you're encouraged not to write about your own stuff - Wikipedia:Vanity. I didn't realise you had written the original description so I thought it was a copyright violation.
I am not original coypowner (sirola is) but I am familar of the program, and when 1st time article is deleted without reasons given, I re-wrote it from scratch. --Moravek 15:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
1,000 Google hits is not enough for a program which is not highly innovative. WP:AFD will decide this article's fate.
Higly innovative? It is, but I should have time to make longer article. I try to be consise --Moravek 15:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators#On_deleting_pages says that I can delete the talk page at my choice. I chose to delete it, as it contained no useful information. r3m0t talk 15:03, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

You are right in that point, now there is usufoul info and discussion, and WP:AFD will have proper argument discussion. BTW, it seems that other wikki editors, who are familiar with some competition programs, interested in editing related data. In general, if one program of some function is described, should other (competitive) programs been deskribed, not like other links but articles? Is not that official wikki policy? I wrote also articles on hr.wikipedia and sh.wikipedia, where I wrote more articles for months. --Moravek 15:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deletion log

of the article, so we could see what I am discussing about:

   * 02:58, 6 January 2006 R3m0t deleted "ShixxNOTE LAN Messenger" (A8 || content was: '{{db-copyvio|http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,30442,00.asp}}')
   * 22:33, 4 January 2006 Cleared as filed deleted "ShixxNOTE LAN Messenger" (copyvio)

--Shixx 13:21, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


another reason against deletion: on this page: Template:Nothanks-sd it explicitory said: you can reenter the content at [[{{{pg}}}]], after describing the release on the talk page. However, you may want to consider rewriting the content in your own words. I do exaclty that - 1st put article that is granted by webmaster of original page, than, 2nd I rewrite the context in my own words, and it is deleted - again by other admin. And talk page is deleted - what is for sure against accepted wikipedia policy. --Shixx 13:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Again, deleting talk pages is policy. r3m0t talk 19:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but giving say, few hours for giving reasons - would it be reasonable? --Moravek 15:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why admin r3m0t is so against my program and article ??

Why editor (admin) is speeding up deletion of this article ?? Do you use desktop sticky notes program ?? Before you delete this article can you try some of desktop sticky notes program which can be LAN messangers also, like ShixxNOTE program is. If you try other program you will see that they are not so good, my program is multithread server/client program, it is awarded many many times, because it is small, it can read your network, you can send note with one click to 20 recipients all over the world, it recipient those not have program installed he will receive note because program will then use Windows messaging service, also you can enter email as recipient of note, many many features that other similiar programs like MagicNote, Quick Note, 3M Post-it note does not have !! Maybe 3M Post-it program have but then it is some professional version which cost more that operating system !!

So delete article if you want, but I think people should know about desktop sticky notes program with powerfull messaging support which can help them to communicate easier.

Regards,

Ozren Sirola ShixxNOTE program developer admin@shixxnote.com

[edit] Misplaced comment by User:Sirola (at Talk:Talk talk:ShixxNOTE LAN Messenger)

I am disagree with speedy deletion because this article on page http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,30442,00.asp was my creation, I send them all info and program description as a ShixxNOTE program developer. So they do not have copyrights on that text, because it is mine.

So put back article, I am really dissapointed, I tried to contribute to Wikipedia but now I don't know which interest are involved in all this.

[edit] criticism

To obtain NPOV, I added some criticism and references. --Moravek 11:24, 8 January 2006 (UTC)