Talk:Shirk (Islam)

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Contents 1 vandalism 2 Theology 3 Agnosticism 4 Neutral POV

Does anyone have any citations or support for the statement "Islamic theologians have thought hard about the implications of monotheism".....what are the implications that other needs to consider? OneVoice 20:08, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It was something my comparative religion professor said back in college: that Muslim theologians had carefully thought out the logical implications of monotheism, and addressed the various categories of worship that was to be exclusively directed to God, and gone into detail about what each of them implied. Most of the other material here is from my old class notes as well. Not sure if I still have the text. -- Smerdis of Tlön 00:15, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It would be good to have the material or not have the statement...otherwise we have an unexplained statement which leaves the reader wondering what concepts, ideas, etc. are not being described. ;( OneVoice 02:21, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I have attempted to reword this to state the point slightly more neutrally. You may wish also to review this site: http://www.muhajabah.com/tawhid.htm , which at least seems to confirm my notes on this. -- Smerdis of Tlön 15:06, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the pointer...I'll see if we can incorporate some of the material here. The rewrite also reads much better. The prior version may have been correct...just need some examples..."too much" science education (observe measure all those verbs)

I felt the discussion of shirk was tendencious; the particular tendency being one I associate with the neo-Wahabbis. Without being upfront about the matter it made several attempts identify veneration of the prophet and saints with "shirk". So I rewrote it. 64.85.224.52 17:35, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC) Kleinecke

[edit] vandalism

Hello, A vandal was messing with the page. I'm not sure I removed all the garbage and saved all the good stuff. Please, someone look it over. Mikereichold 09:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theology

Can someone fix the theology section? it's unclear and includes some sentence fragments, especially at the end. -- Awiseman 20:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Agnosticism

The reasoning by which atheism is considered shirk seems clear enough, but it is not clear from the article how that reasoning is to be applied to agnosticism. In particular which of strong agnosticism, mild agnosticism, apathetic agnosticism, model agnosticism, agnostic theism, agnostic atheism, and ignosticism is considered shirk, and what is the appropriate reasoning in each case? (No need to go into these types individually if all constitute shirk.) --Vaughan Pratt 19:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral POV

Some sections of this article including (& not limited to) Shirk_(polytheism)#Shirk_by_Association dont seem to be on neutral POV. Hence i added the neutrality tag. Please discuss. -- Đõc §aмέέЯ  00:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

it's just a problem of attribution. "some Muslims" doesn't cut it. Strictly, we should remove all unattributed statements in this article. dab (𒁳) 14:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)