Talk:Shiraz University

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[edit] Your misunderstanding

Hesam,

  1. WikIran is a non-profit encyclopedia specializing on Iran. So your allegation of the link being an "advertisement" is baseless.
  2. If you believe there are copyright violations on another website, please raise the issue there and pinpoint exactly what you believe is copyvio.
  3. And just so you know (and please tell this to your friend Roozbeh): Iran is not a member of the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, or its extension WIPO Copyright Treaty, or WTO. This is clearly stated here in non-technical terms, and is also stipulated in the United States Copyright office Circuilar 38 as well as WIPO's own Berne membership list. Therefore:
    • I challenge you to show any text from WikIran that violates copyright laws.
    • As far as the images there go, you should know that any image from any organization of the government of Iran (e.g. Miras Farhangi, IRIB, IRNA, etc) or associated or affiliated with the government (e.g. ISNA and some govt sponsored newspapers) are perfectly legal for display according to United States Copyright laws. But then again, none of this material appears on any WP article, so this matter has no relevance here anyway. Discuss the legality of another website on that website, instead of making allegations here on WP.--Zereshk 20:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
GFDL is something different from Public Domain! One example of CopyVio on that website is just this article (Shiraz University). It's first version is a word by word copy of wikipedia's article. But there is no attribution to the main contributers or citation to wikipedia's article. You were not the only contributer here so that page has copyright problem. Beside this problem why do you persist on putting that link here? That article is just a copy of this article with some minor edits. For photos: Once I saw an image on wikiran that was taken by one of my friends and once used on sharif.edu website! I don't want to discuss that issue. Jimbo wales has told what should we do here and I think that's enough[1]. Hessam 23:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
The United States Copyright laws are above the words of Jimbo wales. He may choose to apply his verdict on Wikipedia. But they do not apply and cannot be legally enforced anywhere else outside of WP. As for your query on wikIran, the images on it, what it is, and why I "persist" on it, I urge you to reply to my email I sent you directly. Perhaps I can convince you there. Thanks.--Zereshk 20:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Forgetting about what Jimbo Wales said, copying without attribution to wikipedia's contributers is still under question. I've replied your email. Hessam 20:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Fine. The WP GFDL reference has been added to the WikIran article on Shiraz University. And we can extrapolate this to all other WikIran articles. That should satisfy all your concerns right there. Khoob shod? Raazi shodee?
As for your friend's image on Sharif U website: If it was on a personal website, you'd be correct. But if the image appears on Sharif University website (despite whatever copyright tags the website puts on its images), it can still be legally used and copied on websites anywhere in the U.S. because Sharif University is a state institution from top to bottom. In other words, the website of Sharif U is itself paid for by taxes and other state public revenues. This even legally pertains to private universities such as "Azad University", because they are legally and officially affiliated with the state of I.R. of Iran, which is not a signatoire to BERNE, WTO, WIPO, etc. That is precisely why you can buy all your software at dirt cheap prices at pasazh-e paytakht (and people here know it too). But then again, this discussion has no relevance here, because everyone is abiding by Jimbo's decision for displaying such material on WP anyway.
I have to go now.--Zereshk 21:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)