Talk:Shinai

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was This article, previously located at Shinai, was unilaterally moved here for the purported reason that "Multiple candidacy for this word is found". However, rather than create a disambig page at Shinai, Shinai redirects to Shinai, Weapon, which, absurdly enough, was turned into a disambiguation page listing only two things, Shinai Weapon (whose name violates capitalization rules, besides not being a proper name of the weapon) and Shinai village. Also, it appears that the editor failed to move Talk:Shinai along with the article. Needless to say, moving Shinai to Shinai Weapon, and then redirecting Shinai to Shinai, Weapon, which is really a disambiguation page to disambiguate only two things, one of which is a weapon and the other an incredibly obscure village in India whose most notable feature appears to be "has good amount Telephone penetration", is very very bad. I'd love to fix this myself but an admin is needed. Thank you. Bradford44 22:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Summary of request:

Shinai Weapon → Shinai

Shinai, Weapon → deleted

• Support the proposal above including Shinai village → Shinai (village) or support Shinai Weapon → Shinai (weapon) and Shinai village → Shinai (village) with Shinai as a dab page, whichever is preferred by others. — AjaxSmack 18:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Well, part of the point is that with only two things to disambiguate, no stand-alone dab page is necessary, it should be sufficient to have {{otheruses4}} or similar template at the top. See MOS:DAB. Bradford44 23:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Update
An editor moved Shinai Weapon to Shinai (weapon). I have updated the listing at WP:RM to reflect this. The following problems must still be addressed:

1. Shinai is currently an unnecessary dab page. According to MOS:DAB, dab pages should not be created to list just two articles, a template such as {{otheruses4}} should be used instead. Therefore, Shinai should be deleted to make room to move Shinai (weapon) back there.
2. Shinai (weapon) is an unnecessary disambiguation. It should be moved to Shinai
3. Talk:Shinai is currently a redirect to Talk:Shinai, Weapon.
4. Talk:Shinai, Weapon contains the content of the original talk page for the article about the "shinai" practice weapon (whose article is currently located at Shinai (weapon). Therefore, Talk:Shinai, Weapon needs to be moved to Talk:Shinai once the articles have been moved.

Summary:

Shinai (weapon) → Shinai (causing deletion of unnecessary dab page currently located at Shinai)

Talk:Shinai, Weapon → Talk:Shinai

Shinai, Weapon → redirect to Shinai or delete

Thank you, Bradford44 12:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

• Following Bradfords proposal, how is it proposed that the village is differentiated from the weapon. Kendo66. (Kendo 66 13:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC) sig did'nt work for me, maybe too late at night !)
  • The article about the village is titled Shinai village. Which, incidentally, is probably wrong, as most articles about cities, towns, etc..., are properly titled "name, name", like Orlando, Florida, or San Francisco, California. Although Shinai village's correct name is properly controlled by whatever the conventions are at the India WikiProject. Either way, Shinai village is obscure at best, the "shinai" (practice weapon used in kendo) is by far the primary usage. Coming back to Kendo 66's original question, the village has a different title already, that's how it is differentiated. Bradford44 13:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
• The concensus was Accept. And I put in a hatlink pointing to the Indian village. Anthony Appleyard 22:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.