Talk:Sheylanli

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[edit] Edits by 83.217.229.146

83.217.229.146, please explain your edits, see, first in the talk page before removing content from the article. You have several times removed sourced fact saying "Sheylanli is a Kurdish village" (the same you did for Minkend). If you believe that is not true (I am being from that region know that Sheylanli village was founded and 100% populated by kurds until Nagorno-Karabakh war), please explain why do you think Sheylanli is not a Kurdish village. And also, in edit summary you asked for neutral source. What makes you think that Voice of Karabakh is not a neutral source? This source belongs to the third party, Azerbaijani government rather than Kurdish government or organization. You are absolutely required to explain another edit of yours, replacement of "area occupied by Armenian Military forces" by "area liberated by Armenian Military forces." And finally, I cant understand why Sheylanli is Armenian related article, because of it is occupation by Armenia? I'm not sure if this would be the reason to put there {Armenia-geo-stub} template. --Gülməmməd Talk 13:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

A source doesn't have to be neutral, we need to be neutral. However, Voice of Karabakh does not qualify as a reliable source. Please see WP:RS. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 03:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I saw WP:RS and found indeed Voice of Karabakh qualify as a reliable third-party(see above explanation) source for given fact. Above I gave clear explanation for the fact that Sheylanli is a Kurdish village. If you and 83.217.229.146 don't want to know that Sheylanli is a Kurdish village, then that is not the problem of provided source and please let it stay there. --Gülməmməd Talk 04:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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Now how does Voice of Karabakh qualify? It doesn't have a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. It also represents an extreme view. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 04:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
It says Sheylanli is a Kurdish village and also I personally know that, then what is your problem with this? You are just edit warring. Please don't modify sourced information under the same reference. You don't know where the Village located, you are attempting to edit an article about a village which had about 150 families before the Nagorno-Karabakh war. Sheylanli was not even around what is called Lachin corridor but in your edit you are saying it was part of the crucial Lachin corridor! --Gülməmməd Talk 04:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
If you want to know, you can see the statement of Armenian ministry of defense regarding recent (around presidential elections in Armenia) incident between Azerbaijani and Armenian military forces in Agdam Rayon. If that is ethnic Armenian military forces, why ministry of defense of Armenia stats that incident happened between Armenian and Azerbaijani military forces while Armenia always claims that Nagorno-Karabakh is independent and all occupied territories are under control of military forces of so called Nagorno-Karabakh republic? Gülməmməd Talk 04:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tags

Tags have been placed because this article looks like blatant POV pushing. Azerbaijani propaganda sites are being used as sources. Other sources are being used that do not support what is written. For instance, the UN source doesn't say that Armenian military forces are in control of the region, it says local Armenian forces. Gulmammad reverted my correction. Gulmammad also claims above that since he knows something to be true it should be added in the article. Hence I am also going to put an OR tag. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 05:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Why do you think Azerbaijani site want to put info saying that in Azerbaijan there is Kurdish population? Why do you think Voice of Karabakh is a propaganda site? Besides, you shouldn't say this in wikipedia since you have a good knowledge related Armenian-Azerbaijani arbitrations. I have provided at least one source which says the fact is true. Now you add another source which says it isn't true, Sheylanli wasn't a Kurdish village. Gülməmməd Talk 05:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)