User talk:Shawn in Montreal

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Golden Square Mile:

David here, thanks for the note. (is this how i send a message on here?)

Anyway, i have loads of photos too, but i don't know how to add them. there's so much to say about the square mile, i'll probably go into further detail on some of the most interesting homes/residents later on, if i can figure out this image thing. and hopefully, i'll get around to adding a bunch more books as references. my second article, i also did the chris marker filmography. i'm thinking next i'll get to the old faubourg de melasse area, and maybe saint jacques or the pre-habitations jeanne mance latin quarter. so much that was destroyed, such a bummer... —Preceding unsigned comment added by David manou (talk • contribs) 00:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NFB WW2 propaganda films

Well, I meant that NFB allows for people to view (and download?) complete films, over 600 in fact, through Cineroute on their website, but only if one joins the NFB Film Club, and one can only join that if one is Canadian. I was wondering if, if t is legal of course, that you could download one of their WW2 vids from them and possibly e-mail it to myself? I don't want to sell it or anything, just curious what a full length Canadian WW2 film would be like, since I've seen so many of the other countries. The NFB site itself only has clips.--Dudeman5685 21:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Well thanks anyway for letting me know. I'll be satisfied with the clips at NFB Cineroute. I'm just always trying to get a larger perspective on history. And, BTW, there are a few of the NFB war titles availble on VHS for Intnl. Historic Films, a private company.--Dudeman5685 02:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 7 Wise Dwarfs, ACK ACK and ATS in the Canadian section

Hi again. I found no mention of 7 Wise Dwarfs, ACK ACK, nor ATS in the NFB's online collection. Are you sure about them? Shawn in Montreal 15:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I beleive they are animated films made in conjunction with Walt Disney. In fact I've seen 7 Wise Dwarfs on the Disney WWII DVD. There was also a Canadian artillery training film on the same collection, which might be one of the others your refering too.

You're right however. I've already set a princle that this list excludes animation. (I'm planning on making yet another page "Cartoons of World War II" when I'm done with this. Or satisfactorilly done with this.--Dudeman5685 23:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

As for ACK ACK, it was the english title for Défense contre avions directed by Peter Baylis in 1941, according to |IMDB. Not sure yet how "ATS" got in there, but I'll look.--Dudeman5685 00:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

ATS, which stood for Auxiliary Territorial Service, has a page on the NFB website, here, but I looked closer and the producer listed is the UK Ministry of Information, so thats probably why its not in the other list. I'll put in it the british section.--Dudeman5685 04:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: vandalism

Since the last user_talk warning he got was from a long time ago, I gave him a starter-warning and thats that. He hasn't vandalized other pages in a while. It is possible it is also a different user using an IP that changes dynamically depending on who the ISP gives it to. This is why after about 48 hours since the last vandalism we give the starter-warning again. Sorry I can't do anything more. JoeSmack ^Talk 19:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Of Mice and Men vandal

Thanks for catching that one. I usually leave a tab open and refresh vandal IP's contributions occasionally for about 15 minutes, to know if they make any more edits or whether they've gone away; I must have just missed this one. I should have caught it later next time I checked my own contributions list for missing (top) marks, but thanks for getting it earlier :) --Firien § 10:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

• PS I find it unlikely that they'll be blocked quite yet; there usually needs to be an escalation of warnings from {{test1}} through {{test5}} skipping stages as appropriate. There should probably be a final warning (test5 or something similar) before blocking; 4 vandal edits in a row is tiresome, but they were pretty minor so probably not technically worth a full block yet. If it escalates, then WP:VIP is the next port of call, to alert an admin about it. --Firien § 10:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User Warnings

Hi, I spotted your message on WP:AIAV, I just wanted to tell you that you don't need to be an admin to issue a warning on a user talk page. I personally have put thousands of warnings without being an administrator myself ;) If you want to learn more about our most used templates, you can check Template:TestTemplates. Happy Editing! -- lucasbfr ^talk 22:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SharedIP tag

Hi Shawn. I tend to evaluate whether to use the {{sharedIP}} tag on a case by case basis. If, after looking up the IP, it's clear that it is probably being used by multiple users or is registered to a school or corporation, I typically place the tag. Not only does it (hopefully) discourage further vandalism, but it also serves as a message to an innocent editor who just so happens to use the same IP in the future that vandalism warnings may not be directed at them. · j e r s y k o talk · 18:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

In re "subst", Wikipedia:Template substitution is helpful. Note that there are some templates that you should not use "subst" with and there are some you always use "subst" with. The template page itself should tell you, however. I probably should not have used subst with the sharedIP template, but it's not forbidden either. · j e r s y k o talk · 20:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Feeney

Hi Shawn,

This article looks good to me. --YUL89YYZ 18:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Best Animated Short

Hmm, I was sure they were different awards.

Merge and create a redirect?

ShakespeareFan00 00:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiCast

Hello - It's me again

I noted from your webpage that you work in the film industry.

I figured you might thus be interested in WikiCast an attempt to get 'free' content programmes made. The WikiCast project has a wiki at http://www.bitshuffle.org/wikicast/Main_Page

Thanks.

ShakespeareFan00 00:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List(s) of winners

Hi Shawn, Montreal World Film Festival has no lists of winners. Not all awards have lists, in the List of film awards, but the Montreal scene might be of interest to develop and you seem to be right in the middle of it. So I dropped you this note just in case. Hoverfish Talk 21:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Great. Before you continue note I have got as far as putting films from [[:Category:Canadian films] up to letter I so if you could put the remaining I-Z in the tables that would be terrific. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I agree. For the larger film producers it is important that a column of notability is there. I would like to see most film documented but not e.g short doucmentary film, short animation or one off indepeenent feature films etc. However I would strongly like to keep the release dates as eventually I plan that each year has the list of films in order of date of release. Maybe Date of release column should go next to year? and then award column on the end?Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Note though that there are many films featuring major actors that were never nominated for awards if this is so and the film is still of moderate note you could write none or N/A. You see I am really trtying to grap the cinema history of each country of the world by the scruff of the neck (so to speak) and document the film history which I beleive is extrmeely useful. It also hels to understand the period and directors and actors. As the list develops maybe the more fuller years will be split off by year all listed in the right navigation box.Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:Films Welcome

[edit] Slippery thing notability

As you probably saw in village pump, notability is nothing to go by in an effort to limit film articles. "Famous" is also undefinable. So how do we go about it? If you take a look at missing Australian films, Ausiepete is doing an effort to limit his compilation. For me the priorities are: Awarded and nominated films, top grossing and wide release (but I know little about this group), important directors' filmographies, important (starring) actors' filmographies, but again anyone could interpret importance in one's own opinion. Then there is the cult scene, of which I know very little. Some people adore B-movies and make detailed compilations of their favorite genres. And the story goes on and on. What Blofeld is doing, is he copies from imdb many thousands of titles (see here*) and then by some criteria that I ignore "filters them down" to less than many thousands. You are not talking to a deletionist, so I keep this kind of utopic hope that out of all this something encyclopedically useful will come out. It's sort of and Ed Wood feeling, finding myself in the middle of editors who do as they feel inclined to. I simply step in when their actions complicate collective work, like when Blofeld tried to create all kinds of cross-categories and there was a general outcry and so I nominated a whole series for deletion. From what you write, I am positive that your contributions are in the right direction. Actually it would help me a lot if you share your thoughts on how we could establish that missing column on (notabilty? - importance? - ?). I encourage you to go about the Canadian list as you feel inclined. If you think Blofeld started right, keep it going. If you feel he missed some or included films you wouldn't, say so. I do try to follow as many threads as I can, especially on the issue of lists of films and film awards (not only the giant ones). That's the very reason I keep encouraging every editor working on awards to make lists of winners and (if possible and practical nominees). IMO it's a good place to start. Hoverfish Talk 18:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm quite with you on non-confrontation, although that's not always the most constructive way. What I am adamant, however, is that it's very good for one interested user to undertake one country at a time. Please, go ahead with the Canadian lists, take over and do as you deem best. If it comes to confrontation because of your way of doing it, I will interfere. I am more concerned about coming up with something useful AND manageable, than letting everything open-ended with a cloud-hidden future. I'll be closely watching progress on the Canadian lists of the main namespace (not so interested in the huge "missing films by country", although for some it may be a useful tool indeed). Hoverfish Talk 19:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

Hi I haven't got around to adding the Canadian missing lists or filtering them yet. As I have told certain users time and time again I spent a great deal of time and effort in quickly checking each one for notability - it is a list of missing feature films. In the filtering I remove for example short documentaries or really low films from the list leaving a list of feature films to add to wikipedia which I beleive will be expanded fully later. Often I leave out one off films or independent films unless they have some notability for awards etc. I only start articles that I beleive can be fully expanded later. I think it is a great idea to add a few more columns for awards/nominations , genre etc.

However despite my efforts and help to other users - being highly praised by many many users outside of film (including many admin), for some reason a handful of users like hoverfish and C Brown are highly critical and cynical of my efforts beleiveing I am too bold, and even after many thousands of contributions whatever I do I cannot convince them I am of value! I noticed that in his message to you, you can see he is still very dubious of my work - it really annoys me that they continue to disrespect me like this. They haven't got the foggiest about my potential and I guarantee you if they met me they would regard me very very differently. I have noticed that they have not offically welcomed me into the film project with the green box like they have to you and all the others -but they don't own anything more than you or I do. I feel I am doing a good job which will be highly useful soon, so rather than waste my time in trying to prove to them what I can do (and still not getting any good reaction) I have given up on speaking to them.

Do you speak French by any chance? - I have begun on the missing French lists. All the best Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll complete I and J now if you like for the canadian list. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I find it incredible though that despite my work, that some users in film think my new articles derived from the missing lists like Aa Ab Laut Chalen are not of encyclopedic value to wikipedia. I personally think it is a very good move at establishing global film on wikipdia. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

You see the idea with the date of release was to not only order the films by year of release but eventually put them in date order so we eventually havea timeline of Canadian cinema releases through history. I do beleive that a column for awards is more important than this. But how about adding both but moving the date of release to the beginning next to the year? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Excellent actually I am tiring of the idea of date order now it is not really important. Although change the header from notability to AwardsErnst Stavro Blofeld 15:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

The header Notability though does cover other aspects apart from awards such as last films of actors etc so its good. I'm sure than even for the non super films there will be some useful notes to add even if it didn't win an award. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:58, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, let's leave it as Notability and see what gathers under it. It's just a header, so if a more successful term is found we can change it any time. About release dates within a year, they would be practical only if we turn all these tables to sortable ones, in which case however we have to standardise what we enter in other columns, so sorting by column would make sense. Again, that's something that could wait till we get Notability completed. Ok? Hoverfish Talk 16:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I feel it is very imortant for cultural issues such as this etc. Looking good i added a note to the 1984 film. And I was adding a notability and genre column before I started but I found it wouldn't fit on the page!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I have listed all the Canadian films in Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article/List of missing Canada Films. However i din't realise how many pornos canada produces!!! I don't really think that films such as F**k my ass 5 are suitable for our list do you? All of those can be removed in bulk and I bet many of the other more "innocent" films are probably not feature films or suitable. Feel free to sort it out Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I have an idea. Why not kill two birds with one stone (so to speak - not that this has anything to do with birds!) and have the column labelled Notability/Release. You see as the list develops and more films are added by year I would like them to be in order of release to get an indication of film historyy -kind of like a document. Notability should be given first then underneath the date released I'll give you an exaple for the 1960s you have started work on Ernst Stavro Blofeld 11:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Excellent mate. I see you are interested in short films. I don't know if you know but you can use the break (please see behind this edit now) (
) to put something on a different line e.g notability/ Release - the note first Award, Nom etc then on next line the date of release - so probably each film in the list will have two lines - this would probably be needed for the actors anyway -I feel it more important to give relevant info than being skinny. I broke off 1950s and 1940s decades for you nicely. I'll continue in a minute I just have about 10 images to upload to the commons and then put in some local geo articles. The weather is BEAUTIFUL today!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Why has Hoverfish added genre before the notability? Notability should come first, then date of release. It would be good if we could squeeze genre and date into a final column. I have just been added pictures see the main pics on Viaduct, Porthkerry Park, and Bristol Channel. Nice pics hey? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I am just pondering on this. I agree with Hoverfish that genre is needed too= particularly to support the notability e.g Best Film of 1962 but what is it about? you know? However we should devise a short hand abbeviation for the tables . Documentary written in a table like this is silly it should be Docu. A key can be drawn on every page. It should look uncluttered Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Also date of release would be e.g Jan 1 not JanuaryErnst Stavro Blofeld 16:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I've solved it. Aside every genre there is wasted space -here we put the release -see the top of List of Canadian films:1960s now this is how every entry should look -now we have all three elements nicely in position and it is still very clear Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I'll just adjust the other tables now I wish Hoverfish had waited. It would have saved his time. Actually I surprised myself there is room for the full word -I think abbreviations should only be used if the note is very long and or the film is in multiple genres agreed? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

OK. For some reason Hoverfish has removed my work from the header? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I have given my reason in your talk page: The first column IS release, it can also take date. Hoverfish Talk 16:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Shawn, take a look at Events in 2004 in film. The fisrt column can be split to take in date, so year doesn't have to be repeated. I did some more work, adding directors etc. You are all welcome to revert and do as you like, but keep in mind that I am crediting both of you for your work in the lists in the upcoming newsletter, so these lists are about to be viewed by many, so I am trying to put some missing info etc. Hoverfish Talk 16:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I feel it very appropriate to mention the relase particularly as there would be a wasted space next to it anyway. These are CANADIAN lists and should document the cinema release of that country in order -if the film is of note it can be linked in 2004 in film Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it would bloat the column if you split the year column by adding month and date. Its best to just put May 1 or Aug.10 in the end box. No one can really argue that the lists aren't fine like this. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

As I've said before, I do agree that the films are given in chronoligical order in the country lists. The only question is how best to do it. If you like, I can covert one of the years per first column = release date and we can see if it makes good sense. I have seen it done often, by the way. Hoverfish Talk 17:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hoverfish agrees with as that the date order is correct. For the years that have produced e.g 10 + notable films date is useful for understanding the chrono order they were released but also it tells us when the film premiered which I feel is an important note. I am happy for him to convert the column if it doesn't bloat it. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Shawn, take a look at the 70ies. If you think it's too much clutter, I can revert as it was before. I am neutral so long as the columns make some clear sense. Hoverfish Talk 18:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, from the moment we start using tables with rowspans and colspans it always gets complicated. Valign simply keeps the year at the top. If you look at the 2000s, the table has a last little column at the end. This means that in some line an extra cell was added. I wish it was simpler, but that's tables for you. Oh, well... Anytime you have a problem tabulating, just let me know and I'll help gladly. Hoverfish Talk 18:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I feel the best way to do this is to lay it out like List of Canadian films:2000s.

As Hoverfish said it is complicated with an extra column for the dates.

Each year is sub sectioned off so it is clearer and then the date of release can replace the year at the left? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes Hoverfish did give the ok anyway but I feel this is the best way to do it. It alos structures them them. I am very glad you like it too. Dates can go in the end column for now but I want to get them in the first column eventually. Ideally I would like to have the year in a sub title on the page as I have done with the 2000s and then January - December in place of where the year is now/. The good thing alos is for the major film producers it may be neccessary to have a page for each year so it would be ready for splitting anyway.

Another thing is notice how underneath the navigation boxes how much more room there is. I think I may adjust the template to a horizontal at the top for more room. This way there may even be room for a column for Film studio or soemthing e.g Universal or Warner etc Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey another thing when you send me a message can you leave it at the bottom!! It takes me several minutes to find it on my very busy talk page!! Cheers Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm off to bed now -our final draft should look like 2000 on the List of Canadian films:2000s page.. Not bad eh? Looking much better now Ernst Stavro Blofeld 23:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd alos love to tart up the pages by adding several film posters of the top films for each year -I'm sure this will qualify as fair use to illustrate Canadian cinema.Ernst Stavro Blofeld 23:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Freeman Dyson

it might be worth worth pushing it on Talk again, since it's a borderline case. My personal opinion is that a god case coulfd be made that it's factually true thathe is skeptical of some details, however it's a little fair lumping him in with a bunch of guys who are getting kickbacks from exxon to flat out deny Climate Change Artw

[edit] TV films

I may not be the one to answer this, since I am quite confused myself. There was a short mention once as a WP Films film that was first aired on TV was claimed from WP TV. I often make infoboxes for TV films as they are categorized in films. Today I even saw one TV serial and since it was requesting film infobox I made one. Maybe we should clear it out in the project talk page. Hoverfish Talk 19:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The best place to post such questions is in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films, since it gets the most traffic. The other lists and subprojects are just visited by the few who work there mostly. I will second you with my questions on the issue. Hoverfish Talk 19:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Keep TV out of a list of films. I am amazed you didn;t ask me seems as I am the one creating the lists!! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I did contact you a while back with a question (a different one, I think) and didn't hear back. So I figured you were very busy so I didn't want to bother you again. Shawn in Montreal 20:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiarostami: FAC

Hi how are you?

I would like to invite you to read the Abbas Kiarostami which is now a featured article candidate. Please review it and leave your opinion at the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Abbas Kiarostami page. Thanks. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Probing alternative

Hi Shawn, would you mind taking a look in my Sandbox and letting me know if you see this as an improvement. I am trying to find a way to resolve this mess and move on with actually filling up some lists of films, as the big template of lists of film by country serves mostly to show the general mess we are in. And there are outside reactions. Hoverfish Talk 16:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's just that it's only one table instead of ten. I also just saw a reason for keeping them separate. Take a look at the List of Thai films, where Wisekwai has applied the sortable table option. This could save us from the alpha/chrono dilema, but cannot be done if they get integrated in one table. Hoverfish Talk 17:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

You mean, when you go to Thai films you don't see these sorting buttons after each header. Normally after "Year", "Title", etc, you should see a little square box, which if you press, changes the sorting. I am curious if in some systems it doesn't work... I will leave the lists as they are, by the way. Hoverfish Talk 18:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] William Monahan article at FAC

Would you be interested in reviewing my article on William Monahan? It's currently being run through its paces at WP:FAC.-BillDeanCarter 00:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Actors and Filmakers

Hey see my proposals at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Actor and Filmmakers and the main WP Film and Biography talk page. Know anybody who is interested? Actors and all film people articles need a body on wikipedia to upkeep them asthey need more focus -it would be a part of Biogrpahy and Film. If you are interested or know somebody who would be, please let them know and whether you think it is a good progession for the project or not. Please leave your views at the council or biogrpahy main talk page. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"I've been expecting you"} 14:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Lake surfing? Cool! Have you seen the proposal yet? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"I've been expecting you"} 20:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the time commit to anything like that right now. Shawn in Montreal 20:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] P.K.D. here too

Not only am I under the permanet influence of P.K.Dick, but I have read all the books I could find from him 2-3 times. I guess by now I must share several loose screws with our late friend. My very tops (thought it's hard to distingush)? Clans of the Alphane Moon, Eye in the Sky (novel), The Zap Gun and The Ganymede Takeover. I would also like to strangle some of the people who made films "based on his books", although some are quite interesting for other reasons. Anyway. Have you seen what's going on with the counbtry lists. I was so immersed in all this (I did the List of French films from scratch and then got stuck with several others) that I didn't even drop you a note that the Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List and navigation management is going on. I would be glad to see your input there. I hope all is well your side. I see a lot of surfing going on. Hoverfish Talk 22:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

If you are too busy, then I will undertake to shape the Canadian lists by 1. including all the most notable films found under Category:Canadian films (I mean if Canada was the 4th co-producer I would think twice) and 2. by condencing them into decade tables with headers for each year (although you once said you'd rather have them as separate tables - well if some years get too long, I will keep them separate). No, we don't duplicate categories, as in categories you can neither see what year each film was released in, neither director, awards and so on. I was taking it easy in case you had plans to jump on it, but will be happy to work on it. Hoverfish Talk 21:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you are wondering what happened, Blofeld merged all the Canadian pages into one. Hoverfish Talk 21:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Entry Island

Hi Shawn,

Just wanted to thank you for your edits on Entry Island, which I recently created. I am also a born and raised Montrealer, although I have been living in Halifax, NS since 1990. Good to see another anglophone Québecer here. Best wishes.--RobNS 19:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with film

Hi, I got a problem with To Sell a War. Bearcat categorized it as Canadian documentary, it also appears in fifth estate, but I just found an external link for it (BFI) and there it states Thames television as production company. Is there a Canadian Thames too? Hoverfish Talk 19:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad to find your name (only) in the edit history of In the Labyrinth, as there is an IMDb entry, which has it as 1979 animation. That's a long time after Expo'67. Could it be they made a film about it later? I'm just putting in the film categories, so if it was a multi-screen that became normal film later we might as well enter both. Yet to me it feels like the 67 thing was not a film as per category films, but some multimedia presentation. What do you think? Hoverfish Talk 18:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

It sure helps! Also the "experimental cinema" helps. Thanks. Hoverfish Talk 21:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lavalife

Alright, if the article it redirected to has been deleted...I don't think Lavalife should have been deleted, it would have been sufficient to remove the advertising. Oh well. Adam Bishop 18:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redlinks on the AfD page

That means someone has added the {{subst:afd3 | pg=PageName}} to the log before they've saved the {{afd2}} (the initial reason for the nomination). Once it's saved, the log will fix itself automatically — iridescenti (talk to me!) 21:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

It's still there today. I don't think this new user realizes anything more is required on his part, though I've tried to explain it to him on his talk page.Shawn in Montreal 15:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry too much, since there's no chance whatsoever that Craig David is actually going to be deleted. Probably a hoax by a fan of a rival act — iridescenti (talk to me!) 15:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I hate you

You got my awesome article deleted! How dare you! Why do you even care if it's fake, it's quite a hilarious version of anarchy which I could have kept going on for a little longer at least. And no I'm not some 12 year old who thinks anarchy is cool because all the kids with mohawks and pierced testicles seem to enjoy it, actually I think anarchism would never work and that humans are too fucking self centered and horrible for anything close to no government to last for a while. --VivaLaZombie! 05:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Windansea Beach

I reinstated your link for you; it was not spam.

Creationlaw 23:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lake Michigan surfing

Thanks for your contact. Surfing is outside my 'field' but speaking as an outsider, the best breaks should be on the northern half of the eastern shore of the lake. The "Great Lakes Surfing Association" with its Web presence is headquartered in Holland, Michigan, less than halfway up, but I imagine that one place to find really good conditions would be cold-water surfing (October and later) farther north around Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore after a stiff southwest breeze has built up for a while. The population density is greater farther south, of course. Please keep in mind that whenever someone from the American West Coast sees someone surfing Lake Michigan, they sneer, even if the surfer is having fun! This is a strange reaction to have in view of all of the cold-water surfing that is done (and enjoyed) in winter in California. Best regards, Bigturtle 22:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] George-Étienne Cartier

Please don't add Category:Quebec politicians to articles that already appear in subcategories such as Category:Members of the Canadian House of Commons from Quebec. Thanks. Bearcat 23:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the note, Shawn. As the person in question has not vandalized in several days, I feel I really cannot do much at the moment. I will keep my eye on the acct, nonetheless. Best, Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 21:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Deserved

Image:Bstar 500+.jpg		The Chain Barnstar of Recognition
		For making a difference! This Barnstar isn't free, this is a chain barnstar, as payment please give this star to at least 3-5 others with 500+ edits but who have not received a barnstar. Canuckle 20:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for my barnstar Shawn! Cheers --RobNS 02:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Riverboarding page images

This page needs images of poeple riding boards with visible equipment, yet you and Quadell delete my postings even with proper image tags and question my existence. Whats up? How do I talk to you by email? Robertcarlson 19:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC) robert carlson

I've replied at User talk:Robertcarlson, thanks. Shawn in Montreal 19:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image of riverboarding uploading question

The images I would upload are of me, but not taken by me. They are souvenier photos you can buy from photo services that sell photos of your river trip as mementos. When I buy the photo I assume I get the copyright to publish as I wish. What do you think? Is there a tag category for this type of ownership that would satisfy Quadell? Robertcarlson 06:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Riverboard images

The jumping into meatgrinder image is a lower resolution version of a photo that appeared in Mens Fintess magazine few years ago. It was given to me by the photographer on the shoot.

The image of me running maytag on the Yuba was taken by a photographer friend of mine doing souvenier photos of a commercial rafting trips which are offered for sale to the customers after the trip. Does this clarify the tag? Robertcarlson 21:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect of Shore break

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[edit] Canadian films

I'm a little curious as to why you thought my message was uncivil? Not at all -surely you should remember that I'm not that sort of user. I know you don't have time to commit to the List of Canadian films. What I was trying to say is that I wish there was somebody who could help improve and add films aside from myself and you. The list is very underdeveloped indeed -it gets a little frustrating I must admit when there aren't all that many editors helping them. Why would you think I was being uncivil to you personally?? Not at all mate I had hoped you had remembered me and them of course ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"Expecting you?" Contribs} 17:56, 16 August 2007 (UTC).

[edit] www.schwartzstories.com...

...is a blog or discussion forum, either are to be avoided as per external link guidelines. Really, Joe Schmoe's personal Schwartz's experience isn't a useful addition to Wikipedia.--Boffob 15:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Dany Heatley vandalism

So I noticed. I've blocked the I.P. for 48 hours and reverted the vandalism. Thanks for the heads up. Resolute 18:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can't indef-block an IP address. I did leave another final warning tag though, and will continue to watch his edits. If he persists, I will block for a longer period of time. Thanks for the heads up. Resolute 17:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not active lately

Hi Shawn, I still keep an eye but I don't interfere. I'm not active in Films any more and am so busy that I can't find the time to indulge even in articles I really wanted to get into. If you wish to raise up the issue in the Project categorization, it might be useful. Someone also messed up the Australian films primary category and there was some debate, but I don't know what happened. Cheers! Hoverfish Talk 19:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of speedy deletion tags

I reverted your removal of a speedy deletion tag on Samuel Gutekunst and then noticed you have done this a lot. If you are an administrator then my error and I apologise, but I see no evidence you are. If indeed you are not then it is not for you (or me) to remove the tags but to argue the case for keeping them. Ros0709 (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

There are three classes of deletion, and it is my understanding that speedy deletion tags and WP:PROD can be removed by anyone for a valid reason, it is only the WP:AFD tags that must be debated. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

To quote the tag, If this page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice. That's open to any editor, not just admins. The editor who placed the tag is no admin. So go for it. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You are quite right. Blimey - I misread that rule! "Any user who is not the creator of a page may remove a speedy tag from it. The creator may not do this. A creator who disagrees with the speedy deletion should instead add hangon to the page, and explain the rationale on the page's discussion page." (my emphasis). Carry on - and I apologise for rv. you! Ros0709 (talk) 19:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Callie Cardamon

Do you really feel that a bit of peacockery like "known for her unique style" constitutes an assertion of notability? --Orange Mike | Talk 02:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

According to guidelines WP:MUSIC, it's apparently enough to rule out a speedy: A mere claim of significance, even if contested, may avoid speedy deletion under A7, requiring a full proposed deletion or Article for Deletion process to determine if the article should be included in Wikipedia. Thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canuck WWII films

This might be a little late, since I've just now started to revive interest in the WWII propaganda page (ya know how it is) and i've seen you added the publicly available NFB WWII films. Thank you so much! Its always good to get as many perspectives on history as possible and hopefully this will help put to rest the stereotype that Canadians are overly passive;) Thanks again.--Dudeman5685 (talk) 20:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Brownbagging

An article that you have been involved in editing, Brownbagging, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brownbagging. Thank you. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Anton Robert Krueger

An article that you have been involved in editing, Anton Robert Krueger, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anton Robert Krueger. Thank you. Mbisanz (talk) 05:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits made on December 24, 2007 (UTC) to Diane Salema

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That was not a speedy deletion tag you removed, but a seconded proposed deletion. 72.75.72.63 (talk) 12:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invite

As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know about WikiProject University of Florida, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of University of Florida. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! ~~~~

[edit] Notability of football/soccer players

Hi there. It seems that you are unfamiliar with the notability criteria regarding football players on Wikipedia. The general requirement is that the player must have played at least one match at the highest level of senior football or, failing that, he/she must have been given a squad number for that season. Anyone else, even those who have played in the annual FIFA Under-17 World Cup, is not notable. I hope I've been clear, as I'm not usually that good at explaining things. Anyway, thanks, and try to bear these things in mind next time you remove a PROD nomination as you did today. – PeeJay 20:28, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

If you see my AfD nomination for Nathan Porritt, you will see my reasoning why playing at the FIFA Under-17 World Cup should not count as a notability gauge. Basically, the competition is biennial (compared to the quadrennial senior FIFA World Cup), and the proportion of players who play at the Under-17 World Cup and don't go on to have a fully professional career is quite high. If someone played in one game at the Under-17 World Cup, then never played again for some reason, they wouldn't be notable, wouldn't you agree? – PeeJay 20:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alchemy Award

Slakr's Alchemy Award For putting forth excellent effort in turning something close to deletion into something more valuable on Jack Mandelbaum, I hereby award you a picture of some lead I recently turned into gold via alchemy. Since you already know how to turn worthless into useful, I think I'll just keep the actual gold for myself, since you'll be able to make some on your own, right? :D Anyway, thanks for helping out. Keep up the great work =) --slakr\ talk / 21:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Thomas Carl Rustici

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[edit] Rustici

I thought you said Taking Sides makes no mention of him? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Carl_Rustici&diff=180714990&oldid=180714385 See issue #11: http://www.dushkin.com/catalog/0072845139.mhtml?SECTION=TOC Sarsaparilla (talk) 03:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, okay. He wrote one argument in one of the chapters. My mistake. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] McGill

Thanks for the backup on McGill University. I agree, the whole go-around is a complete waste of time, but I'm trying to go by the book. I don't even leave messages on anon IP editor talk pages anymore, they just ignore them. I'll stay vigilant, and maybe something can be done eventually. Thanks! Snowfire51 (talk) 06:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your help. I'm not sure what can be done about this, I've been trying for days to get the vandal to talk it over. His pattern of using edit summaries instead of talk pages seems to indicate he doesn't want to discuss anything constructively. Hopefully this ban will encourage a little civility. Thanks again! Snowfire51 (talk) 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Gracias for the heads-up. I'm fairly certain it's the same user, maybe finding an old account since he can't edit it anonymously anymore. Thanks for informing the authorities. This is stupid beyond belief, it seems, but I appreciate the assistance. Snowfire51 (talk) 06:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I am truly not amused by meat-puppetry - Wikipedia is WP:NOT a place for social experiments. It also seems to me that a couple of decent compromises have been offered and not accepted, so I'm inclined to say that one side of this group is negotiating and the other not and that saddens me. - Philippe | Talk 01:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Postbeat Poets

Obviously you didn't read my entry concerning a person's handle vs. a person with that name. Who are you to assume they are one-in-the-same? What if I used the handle "AlEinstein"? Whould you delete all entries I wrote about Albert Einstein? I can just see your entry now..."Al Einstein is promoting himself...must delete!"

Jim Cohn has more accolades than most of your contemporary poet entries. You shoot this down without doing any research, that's obvious. Maybe you should Google "Jim Cohn" before you are so quick to judge.

Try this...http://poetry.about.com/od/poetrybooks/a/morepopicks2004_4.htm or even this...http://www.nyc.com/events/Poetry_Project_Sam_Abrams_and_Jim_Cohn.935736/editorial.aspx...or maybe this...http://www.counterpunch.org/poems02282003.html...or even this...http://www.cadillaccicatrix.com/index1.htm...and don't forget...http://poetry.about.com/library/weekly/aa092501e.htm...or even...http://gupress.gallaudet.edu/SLScurrent3.html

I hate presumptuous people.

Signed Lewie Paine a.k.a JimcohnJimcohn (talk) 02:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

None of these links either a) work or b) represent reliable sources, whoever you are. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I give up. This is impossible. I have attempted to delete my username. If you're an administrator would you please see that the user HOUSE OF PAINE gets deleted. Sorry for the trouble.HOUSE OF PAINE (talk) 22:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Youth Conservative Party of Canada

• Hey Shawn, it seems that someone has reposted the Youth Conservative Party of Canada article after the AfD consensus was to delete. I suggest you tag it for speedy deletion as a repost, {{db-repost}}. I would do it, but people would scream conflict of interest. -- Chabuk ^{[ T • C ]} 18:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Île de la Visitation

Hey Shawn, I am trying to expand the Neighbourhoods in Montreal category as much as possible. I saw the Toronto Neighbourhoods template and it included the Toronto Islands (which I believe are sparsely inhabited). The Ile de la Visitation apparently has "half a dozen houses on a tiny street on the island, but the rest is quite heavily forested parkland"[1]. Not sure if people actually live in the homes or not, and I guess its status of a neighbourhood would depend on if it had residents? Cheers. MTLskyline (talk) 20:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppet comments

You're welcome. Glad to get rid of the sockpuppet comments that a sockpuppet IP left on your user and talk page. Just to let you know that I reported that IP on WP:AIV. NHRHS2010 00:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, but if the vandal keeps creating sockpuppet accounts or changing IP addresses to evade block, a CheckUser is necessary. NHRHS2010 00:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't even remember how you got pulled into the sockpuppet, but thanks for all your help and I apologize for any inconvenience this simpleton is causing you. The funny thing to me is his constant badgering about you using the word "fuck" and WP:PROFANITY, when if he'd read the page it doesn't say anything about using profanity on talk pages. I thought it was funny and appropriate, given the sockpuppet idiocy he's delved into ever since. Take care! Snowfire51 (talk) 04:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: Editorhwaller, the two SOCKPUPPET1/2 accounts aren't even registered how are they tied to Editorhwaller? How can they be socks. Also, can't indef and IP unless it's a TOR server or something like that. Add more info to the SSP case. — Rlevse • Talk • 16:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How to respond to trolling

Avoid using immoderate language [2] because every time you do, it gives the troll a little shiver of joy, and encourages them to keep bothering you. Read WP:DENY. I recommend you slow revert any trolling. Ignore it for 24 hours, and then quietly remove with a minimal comment in the edit summary "remove unhelpful comment". If this page is hit frequently by trolling from different IP and newly registered accounts, we can semi-protect. I'll look at the history now and see if that's necessary. Jehochman ^Talk 15:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You Know

Oh yeah. Sock city. Snowfire51 (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] While I'm thinking about it

WRT to this discussion, the link showing Montreal as a UNESCO City of Design and not as a world capital of design is this:
http-//portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php-URL_ID=30945&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
I would rather figure out cite's myself but I'm taking too long and I'm interested in how you would reword/refactor the whole thing anyway.

Other wanderings:

1. I buy into you loving your city, I had always tabbed it as the best city in North America - until I moved to Vancouver. Now I would have to declare a weak tie, I'll give you the edge but - shovelled any snow lately? And we do have your goalie...
2. I didn't know about Parc Jean Drapeau, is that a place you go to rack up billion-dollar debts? :) Ile Notre-Dame is certainly mentioned in the Places in... article, I suppose that IMO it should be mentioned more prominently in the Montreal article itself or more prominently in the Places article (at least mention the rowing basin), perhaps an article of its own. Manmade, racetrack, casino, Olympic buildings, rowing basin, St. Lawrence River, Gilles Villeneuve, seems somehow, how do you say, notable?
3. I'm not a resident, I don't know how much the water features in your lives, but certainly as an outsider I think the islands in the river are one of the jewels of Montreal. I don't know enough to actually write anything but I'm cheering from the sidelines! Franamax (talk) 04:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Replied at my talk. I've got more than islands on the brain, I'm also thinking of a new way to navigate WP - by canoe. Put me on your watchlist, I'll need all the brains I can find... Franamax (talk) 04:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Idea at User_talk:Franamax#The_Wiki-Canoe. Stop me if it's already out there. I'm thinking about trying "Fraser River System" first in extra-raw form. "St. Lawrence System" is much more complicated. Franamax (talk) 05:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Thanks

Your very welcome! CWii_{(Talk|Contribs)} 21:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brantford City Council

The anon IP was only blocked for a bit more than 24 hours, which means he could very easily start up again tomorrow. So you might want to leave the listing on WP:CWNB for a few more days yet just to be safe. Bearcat (talk) 17:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec

Hello Shawn. I think ya accidently 'deleted' one of my postings. GoodDay (talk) 00:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 00:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Meetup/Montreal

I see you are a user located in Montréal, you may be interested in: Wikipedia:Meetup/Montreal. Please add your name to the "Interested" or to the "Not interested" list. Date is set for May 3rd 2008 and Buffet La Stanza is the proposed location. If you have another idea for the location; propose away! Please pass on to any Montreal Wikis you maybe aware of and who are not yet listed as interested, may be interested, or not interested. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 04:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually a more central location is better for me too. (But I don't know about the other people), I'm not from Montreal and I'll (probably) be arriving by the yellow line. As I said earlier: "If you have another idea for the location; propose".Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 14:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good work

Good work on the Wilfrid Laurier University Student Publications merge!! GreenJoe 01:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] expos

Yeah i havent been able to find a citation but i was at the game so i can tell you that it did happen, but i will look for a citation —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hg robs (talk • contribs) 04:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Subdivisions of Quebec

Hi. Since you've been involved with Quebec navigational templates, I wonder if you'd have an opinion on a decision being made at Template talk:Subdivisions of Quebec about whether to merge regional templates like Template:Nord-du-Québec into the big Quebec template. Joeldl (talk) 15:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nipissing University Student Union

We need some more keep votes on this. GreenJoe 19:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you. The template and category are further proof of inherit notability. GreenJoe 15:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilfrid Laurier University Student Publications

Thank you for your help with this. It was a very good solution. You're a bright man. --GreenJoe 14:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for helping me out with the Anglo-Quebecers category! I definitely thought a category like this was needed for some time (Franco-Ontarians have one, why not us). Also many thanks for the cookie! MTLskyline (talk) 03:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

• I agree with you regarding Anglo-Quebec expats. It's my opinion that we should be as inclusive as possible. I made a table that might or might not be of use to us. I think it covers every angle (taking for granted that person in question is an anglophone, but that is a completely different matter.)

Anglophone Quebecer	Born here	Raised here	Currently lives here	Previously lived here
Born here	...	YES	YES	(If raised here: YES, if not: NO)
Raised here	YES	...	YES	YES
Currently lives here	YES	YES	...	...
Previously lived here	(If raised here: YES, if not: NO)	YES	...	...

Cheers. MTLskyline (talk) 04:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

• • Yeah, I'll remove Henry Morgentaler from the category, lack of proper checking on my part. MTLskyline (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] disambiguation entries

Hi, Shawn in Montreal. thank you for improving the entry you edited on the Notre Dame dab page. fyi, the manual of style for disambiguation pages specifies that there should only be one navigable (blue) link per entry. so, I adjusted your edit so that only the Basilica portion of the entry is linked. best wihes. Gwguffey (talk) 04:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks and happy editing. Also, consider yourself invited to check out the disambiguation project. Gwguffey (talk) 14:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reg Non-Admin Closures

These links are simply enough for a general idea of non-admin closures.

Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions
Wikipedia:Non-admin closure

-) -Ravichandar 03:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cheers!

Hey no problem. There are far too many policies and guidelines now for anyone to know so we need to help each other by pointing out those we are aware of in discussions. The instruction creep is becoming over-whelming. DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MontrealNeighbourhoods

I changed around the MontrealNeighbourhoods template a little bit. It is in my opinion that

• Template:MontrealNeighbourhoods
• Template:Urban agglomeration of Montreal
• Template:Montreal

should all be one template. I was always uncomfortable with boroughs and municipalities on the Island of Montreal being listed on more than one template. I think the common template should be named one of the following: Urban agglomeration of Montreal, Island of Montreal, Subdivisions of Montreal or Montreal (region). What do you think? MTLskyline (talk) 03:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

• • Yeah, before it was very large, but this template will only be for the island of Montreal. MontrealNeighbourhoods template is about as big as its going to get now. I know you asked me if there was anyway to put mention of West Island on the MontrealNeighbourhoods template. I will not put Longueuil or Laval in there as that makes it too long as you said. Also the template should be collapsed by default. Anyways, I'll leave it at that for now. MTLskyline (talk) 03:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Montreal Museum of Fine Arts

Thank you for your message re the copyright violation. I did not add the section. I simply restored it after it was blanked as an apparent act of vandalism by an anon IP. I have no view re the content of the article - if you have detected a copyright problem by all means remove it. Euryalus (talk) 06:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of The Bellflower Bunnies episodes

Hi. While this is still going on, I've just made my final touch-ups on the list for a little known French/Canadian children's cartoon called The Bellflower Bunnies. I think I am the only Wikipedian who knows so much, so far, about the show and its original book series material.

I'm also willing to submit this as an FLC in a few days. Tell me what you think of the page, and I'll address concerns soon.

(I'm only leaving this here just in case you've managed to catch the show's CBC airings early on Friday mornings.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 00:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Salish Sea

Saw your edits; I can live with them for now, but the entire article needs a rewrite and to be expnuged of such claims as "commonly known/accepted" and other newspeakish BUNK. The main problem with the BC renaming agenda proposed by the Chemainus Band and fawned over by the NeoGrits is that the name-change proposal in the US is much broader and wide-ranging, with the whole of everything from Port Renfrew/Cape Flattery around through the San Juans/Gulf Islands plus Puget Sound plus Georgia Strait is what's to be changed. if BC' stupid plan succeeds, it will fly in the face of an identical name in the US which doesn't mean Georgia Strait, but a whole lot more. My main objection is that this article was originally written with the pretense that this name WAS official/widely-accepted; in reality it's a neologistic feel-good p.c. bandwagon with no practical outcome. Chemainus itself isn't even on the Strait of Georgia; it's on Stuart Channel, which isn't part of the Strait of Georgia. It IS part of the not-officially-named Gulf of Georgia, but.....that's not the same thing. The aboriginal peoples who DO live on the Strait of Georgia - the Penelakuts, the Tsawwassen, the Shishalh, Skwxwu7kmesh and others - have not been consulted about this name change. I think in ref to the controvery the "conspiracy theory" notion that the provgov wants to change the name in order to castrate the [[Georgia Straight] newspaper's branding deserves attention, and also the "pretend everything's OK with aboriginals to make the Olympics look good" agenda. In any case, this whole article and the newspeakifying campaign behind it is a travesty; needs major paring, should not be treated as a geographic article,but only should be an article about the term, not pretending that it already is "the" name to be used.Skookum1 (talk) 20:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Quebec communities with important anglophone populations

This category was meant to be something similar to the United States communities with African American majority populations category, but with a little more detail. I'm using 2006 Canadian Census mother tongue numbers for all places listed.

• For DDO:
  • Total Population 48,690
  • English only 21,800
  • French only 8,095
  • English and French 445
  • Other language(s) 18,340

I divide the number of mother tongue English speakers by the population of DDO for the percentage (~45%).

• If I were to use language spoken most often at home:
  • English: 29,180
  • DDO Total Population : 48,690
  • Percentage comes out to ~60%.

Dollard Des Ormeaux Community Profile

I'm interested to know where the 67% came from, it isn't cited (maybe 2001 or 1996 census or a Quebec government census?). Although I must agree with you that I thought the West Island was more anglo than the numbers are showing. Language at Home and Mother Tongue are two very different definitions. If you think Home Language is a better measure of the number of anglophones, I'll switch the percentages. MTLskyline (talk) 01:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You should include both, plus a third category (official language minority). This would include allophones (like myself) who speak other languages at home, but who use more English than French in their day to day lives. This is important becasue the federal government uses this statistic to determine the demand for English-language services in various regions. --soulscanner (talk) 17:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parc/Park

Hi. Sorry for the delay in responding. Park Avenue, Montreal would be the correct form. However, if I recall correctly (and my memory is a bit hazy on this point), I believe that there was a general discussion in relation to the titles of articles on Montreal street names. I can't remember if there was any consensus, but I think there were a number of editors who disagreed with the assertion that the English-translation (often the historic English name) of a street name is the most commonly used name in English -- I think the suggestion was that most Montreal anglos would simply say, for example, "Parc" or "des Pins" (even possibly "St. Jacques" rather than "St. James") without the street type, with some exceptions (Crescent Street comes to mind). I have no idea if this discussion went anywhere, or whether it resulted in any kind of agreement or consensus. I don't even remember where it took place. But you may want to dig around (perhaps the archived discussion of the Montreal talk page?) and take a look before moving this page. You don't want to incur the wrath of someone who believes that the issue was settled in 2006 or something like that. Good luck. Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm. Couldn't find that old discussion (mind you, I only spent 5 minutes looking). A found a small, dusty discussion at Talk:Montreal/Archive 1#Street names, but I am pretty sure that's not what I was thinking of. I also looked at the category, and see that the articles seem to all use the English name. So, one of the following must be true:

• The dicussion I referred to above never took place, and is all in my mind;
• The discussion resulted in a consensus to use the English names; or
• The discussion never went anywhere.

In any case, it appears that you can ignore much of what I said in my previous post. But in the extremely unlikely event that you do suffer the wrath of some editor who has a better recollection of some old 2006 discussion, well at least I tried to warn you. :) --Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I finally came across that old discussion that I was rambling on about - it's at Portal:Montreal/Discussions/English Names. Not sure if it retains any relevance. Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:CANSTYLE#French_names

Per Wikipedia:CANSTYLE#French_names the name of the institution should be used (i.e. Montréal Biodôme, Montréal Insectarium, Montréal Botanical Garden, and Montréal Planetarium, as used in their respective official sites [3][4][5][6] ; emphasis added) "For many current institutions (hospitals, universities, etc.) in Quebec, standard Canadian English usage is ambiguous and not clear-cut: some English speakers refer to the Université du Québec à Montréal, while others refer to the "University of Quebec at (or in) Montreal", while still others simply use the acronym UQAM (you-kam). In such cases, title the article with the proper name of the institution in French, and create redirects from any English translations that are genuinely likely to be used as alternate search or link terms. However, where there is a standard and generally accepted English name for the institution, use that rather than the French name (e.g. National Assembly of Quebec rather than "Assemblée nationale du Québec".)" Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 01:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

You've cited the Wikipedia:CANSTYLE#French_names, but left out the lead that states "Note that Wikipedia's Use English guideline does not mean that the words in an article title must invariably be in English; it means that the title needs to be what an English speaker would most likely recognize as the usual name of the subject." When there are commonly used English names, backed up by secondary as well as primary sources, we should use them. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I guess it depends on what priority you give to primary sources (I understand as the "official" ones) and secondary sources (and the common usage, i.e. Newspapers etc.) Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 02:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

It's not upon what priority I give. See WP:PSTS: "Wikipedia articles should rely on reliable, published secondary sources." Basing the article name on a single primary source using the Quebec spelling of Montréal, while ignoring reliable, published secondary sources such as the Montreal Gazette, establishing a commonly used English version of the name, is a clear violation of WP:CANSTYLE and just plain wrong. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I understand now, thanks for clarify that up for me. Montreal Gazette with spelling without the accent in Montreal, but with the "ô" in Biodôme. As long as the official name is at least mentioned I'm fine with that. Also the "you" above is to note the fact that sources are usually easy to find, here are a couple (printed) secondary and tertiary sources with the accent on the e: [7] [8] [9] [10]. Even with all the guidelines, one has to chose sometimes, and thats because even if the research is not original, the search is. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 13:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

There is no choice. If noteworthy English examples co-exist beside noteworthy French examples (as they always do in Quebec) we are required to use the English. WP:NCGN has a lot of good info on this. If you still don't agree, you might want to raise this on the talk page at WP:CANSTYLE. I'd rather not continue this here. I obviously think you're wrong, and what's more, I think you have the potential to do a lot of damage if you start applying your interpretation across the board on Quebec-related article, so please raise in an appropriate forum. thank you, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Although I'm not sure you understand my point, I asked my question on the appropriate forum. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 15:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

(I would have posted this in response to [11]) :

For the names in the article itself that's what I meant (sorry if I was unclear). And for the official name, what I mean is: Should both the official English names and official French names be used, or just French or just English? (For example "Montréal Biodôme" is the official English name, and "Biodôme de Montréal" the official French name, and "Montreal Biodome" the common name). Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 15:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

• Yes and I posted a reply there -- before deleting it. I think I'll stay out of it. I don't know anymore how much we do disagree on. Not much, perhaps. Certainly, the official French name must always appear in the lead, even when the article name is English. I never meant to suggest otherwise. For Montreal Biodome, I interpret the WP guidlines as instructing us to use the common English name, but then the lead must include the Official French name and could very well also include the official English, both in brackets. cheers, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks - Speeder page edit

Hi Shaun, thanks for tidying up the info on the Speeder page - it is starting to make a little more sense.Sulzer55 (talk) 09:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Meetup/Montreal

You are invited. Peter Horn 18:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Places in Montreal

An editor has nominated Places in Montreal, an article which you have created or worked on, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

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[12] Sorry, I didn't mean "all" as in all the information, I should've been clearer. Of course you'll have to be selective and that some of the information will be useless in the neighbourhoods article. Best, PeterSymonds | talk 19:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I do not have any citations for the stuff I added about Goose Village. I just didn't like that little 'weasel words' thing there. --Megaforcemedia (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rugrats

Somebody added that information, for no reason that's immediately obvious to me, to {{Animation-film-stub}}...so it was on all the articles because it was actually being added as part of the stub template. Bearcat (talk) 03:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks like they also did something similar to a couple of the horror film templates, too. Determined vandal, clearly. Bearcat (talk) 03:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] George-Étienne Cartier

Shawn,

Thanks for your comment on my talk page.

I think if you review the change history you'll see you were mistaken. Your changes were not revisions to my edit. Mauls (talk) 21:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Quite right. My sincere apologies. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

No worries! Mauls (talk) 20:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Frederic Bednarz

Your edit-summery statement in removing the speedy-delete notice for copyright violation was in error. The fact that the user name of an original editor resembles that of the subject in no way excuses that editor from copyright violation policies, because we have no way for certain to prove that the editor in question is the copyright holder. Even if he or she is, that copyright holder must give explicit permission to Wikipedia for its use by placing the work under GFDL. Moreover, this is also a case of self-promotion, which violates additional Wikipedia policies. I have reverted the speedy deleted tag; please do not remove it again. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 00:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I was posting the message above while you were posting to my talk page. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 00:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re: May 2008

Thanks Shawn, I will take that into consideration the next time I edit/create an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Habs4ever (talk • contribs) 15:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello!

Glad to see another wikipedian in Montreal :) --Creamy!^Talk 01:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Shawn

Hi Shawn, I don't know what happened between us, if you look back to January 2007 on your talk page, we did a lot of work together and I remember helping you and vice versa. I;m sure I was to one who invited you to join WP:Films with hoverfish. I always thought we got along well, until one day I think I offended you with asking why the Canadian film list hadn't developed or something or made a blunt comment and I think you took it to heart, I apologize if I offended you in any way, and you didn't seem a disagreeable editor at all. I;ve always tried to help wikipedia in the best way I can but occasionally I overstep the mark and can snap at people due to the pressures of this site. Sorry mate, I thought you did a great job with developing those Canadian documentary films, and it was an area that needed a lot of development. If you don't accept me speaking to you, I can't help it, but just trying to clear the air, between somebody who I think is worth bothering with.
♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)