User talk:Shaneymike/Archive 1

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[edit] Etiquette

"Actively erasing personal messages without replying (if a reply would be appropriate or polite) will probably be interpreted as hostile. In the past, this kind of behavior has been viewed as Civility|uncivil, and this can become an issue in arbitration or other formal proceedings." (from Wikipedia:Removing warnings#Can I do whatever I want to my own user talk page?). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

You've come here to edit, yet you seem determined to ignore our (or, indeed, any) standards of civility, not to mention our rules and guidelines for articles. I've been more than civil, offering advice and help — in return I've at best been ignored, at worst, you've responded with childish attacks. Your attempt to remove the evidence of our exchanges is fruitless (though understandable), as it remains in the edit History (and would remain there even if the relevant pages were not merely blanked but deleted).
You've done nothing so far that warrants my blocking you from eiting (and in any case I couldn't do that, because I'm not a neutral party); if you behave to others as you have to me, though, I doubt that you'll find editing here a happy experience.
Now, if you'd like to start again, that will be fine; I can forget your behaviour up to now, and we can start afresh. It's entirely up to you. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry not to have replied immediately — I was more-or-less simultaneously engaged in two long discussions and a complicated Page Move. Of course it's good enough — more than good enough. And if there's anything you need help with in the future, feel free to drop me a note. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

I have my preferences (editing) set to prompt me if I try to save an edit with a blank edit summary. Anyone can forget sometimes, otherwise. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

Looks good to me. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Publicity photos

I'm afraid that it's incredibly difficult to find out. The reason seems to be that Wikipedia has recently got all hysterically paranoid about such things. Because our license means that other people can use our material for profit-making purposes (why would an encyclopædia that prides itself on being free allow other people to charge for what we've done? Who knows?) we're not allowed to use publicity photos, even when we've been given direct permission. I've recently had problems with this myself. You need to get permission specifically to use the photos udner our licensing agreement. The best thing to do is to contact the relevant people (agents, PR company, artists, or whoever) and ask if there's a photo that we can use (giving a link to something like this page). Once you've been given permission, I think that it's OK to use the photo.

Sorry about all this; it seems designed to make it difficult if not impossible to use photos for any article on a living or recently living person. The claim is (but it's just a legal nonsense) that a fair-use image can be replaced by one that isn't — but how are you suupposed to go out an photograph a band that no longer exists?

You might want to check all of this at Wikipedia talk:Fair use, as I might have misunderstood some of the legal gobbledegook. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it; I know what job stress is like. We got off on the wrong foot, and now we're on the right foot. All's well that ends well. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:49, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm at the moment involved in a dispute about this kind of image — but the bulk of admins are against me; their view is that we mustn't make fair use of fair-use images, and are condoning the removal of such images from artciles without notice. I honestly wouldn't bother up-loading this image. (Image:Matthew Erickson.jpg won't last long...)

In principle, though, is this the one that you mean? I don't think that it's (legally) down-loadable. You can, of course, get it by going into the relevant temp folder of your browser and saving it to a permanent folder — but you wouldn't be able to use it on Wikipedia, as it doesn't even fit the fair-use criterion. (The same goes for the Matthew Erickson photo.) Sorry. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)