User talk:Shalom Yechiel/Archives/April 2007

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My RfA

  • Thanks for the support position. However, I've decided to withdraw my acceptance because of real WP:CIVIL concerns. I will try again later when I've proven to myself and others that my anger will no longer interfere with my abilities as a Wikipedia editor. Thanks again, and I'll see you around here shortly. :) JuJube 04:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

In answer to your question in the edit summary at Charlotte Delbo

Two hours.[1] You were the first edit afterwards (Don't worry, if you are. Had you not noticed, I have the article watchlisted and would have taken care of it). Daniel Case 04:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Re ASCII WP Logo

Great piece of art, unfortunately even at 1600*1200 that image is hugmongously large! Is there any chance you could redo it in a graphics application and repost it, please? Thor Malmjursson 05:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

  • It's a good question, but I'll have to put it on hold. YechielMan 06:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

ATT survey/poll thing

Hi, I changed the * you entered to a # to keep the syntax the same as everyone else. :) - Denny 06:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I would have done it myself, but I figured the next voter would, or someone would, so thanks. YechielMan 06:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Stan Freberg Presents The United States of America Volume One The Early Years

Just letting you know that the PROD deletion of the above article has been reversed. The creator of the page is quite upset over it's deletion, and has been talking to the project info-desk to track down what happened. They finally directed him to me, the admin who processed the PROD, and he sent me an email asking for explanations. I have given him an explanation on his talk page, and undeleted the page as the PROD is definitely now contested. I figured you might want to also chime in on his talk page with an explanation of why it was PRODed in the first place. Be aware, this user is pretty much unaware of WP procedure and particularly of WP terminology and jargon. In his emails with the INFO desk he was getting particularly annoyed at a number of WP terms that we tend to take for granted. (I've defined a few for him in my response.) - TexasAndroid 19:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Majorly's RfB

Hey YechielMan, thanks for your kind support in my RfB. Sadly, it didn't pass, but I appreciate the support, and the fact you think I am a fine admin, and I do intend to run again eventually. Happy editing! Majorly (o rly?) 02:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you for the support vote in my recent RfA. Although it wasn't successful I appreciate your vote of confidence. Anyway, I'm continuing on with editing Pacific War-related articles and hopefully you'll see several of them on the FA nominations page in the future. Cla68 22:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Apure River

  • You said in my discussion page: "Some of your recent edits have been considered unhelpful or unconstructive and have been reverted or removed". I would like to know which recent edits are you talking about. I already know some edits about the Orinoco which have been reverted. Despite this, I am studying rivers from the Orinoco Basin since more than four decades and wrote several books and papers on the Orinoco Basin (not in English, but in Spanish). So, maybe I am wrong, but I need to know my errors. --Fev 00:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for your support on my Request for adminship, which finished successfully, with unanimous support of 40/0/0.

I will do my best to serve Wikipedia and the community. Again thanks.
--Meno25 07:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks from Akhilleus

Akhilleus gets new weapons.
 April_2007, thanks for your support in my successful RfA,

including the great quote! As the picture shows,
the goddesses have already bestowed my new weapons,
which I hope to use to good effect. If you ever need assistance,
or want to give me feedback on my use of the admin tools,
please leave me a message on my talkpage.
--Akhilleus (talk) 17:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for you vote, If my RfA does pass I will be sure take your advice, which does seem to be a very logical way of doing things.--Joebengo 06:23, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

re:multiAfD's

Wow, thanks for the heads up. I knew there must be a way as I had seen it done but hadn't gone down the AfD page far enough. I stumble through the AfD process as it is, lots of steps and back and forth, although I'm learning some process tricks that make it easier. Blatant self-promotion seems to be viral and checking the edit hx of creators often leads to more related articles. Obviously I would only group them if they were connected by more than just the creator as in this instance.--killing sparrows 07:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Editor review

Well, I can't help but get involved in the InShaneee thing, since he done wrong to me and many feel it should be asked if he should be an admin over it (and many others). - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

KFP's RfA thanks

Thank you for supporting me on my recent nomination for adminship, which passed with a tally of 45/0/0. Please let me know if I can help with something or if I make a mistake. Cheers! --KFP (talk | contribs) 15:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Editor Review

I appreciate your comments and suggestions, and will certainly take them into consideration going forward. Thanks! Carom 03:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


My Talk page

Thank you for your change, however I left it as is because it was still a rough draft I wasn't quite sure what I wanted to do with it yet. You've come very close to what I had in mind, but I'm not quite prepared to change it yet. Fr0 02:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Frederick Manson Bailey

Thanks for the redirect, brains not working this morning. Gnangarra 02:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Problems with Variegated Rhapis Palms

I have deleted my work on Variegated Rhapis Palms. I am not sure what your objections are based on and any quotes that were made in reference to the subject matter were from my own work so I did not think I would have to attribute them! I will save it for my own site Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LyndalM (talk • contribs) 03:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

I have performed a history merge into Rhapis, and left Variegated Rhapis Palms as a redirect. Let me know if you have any problems with this. —dgiestc 04:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Re Variegated Rhapis

Hi, Thats fine but it may need more work as rhapis are such a large diverse group of palms. LyndalM 05:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)Lyndal

Quidco AfD

Hi,

I wondered if you would be kind enough to review your comment on Quidc's AfD as it's now been demonstrated there are several articles and other grounds whereby the company may be noteworthy, Cheers! :-)Supposed 12:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

 April_2007, thank you very much for your support in my successful RfA.

I am thankful and humbled by the trust that the community has placed in me,
and I welcome any comments, questions or complaints that you may have.
Again, thank you for your support, and happy editing!
Hemlock Martinis 22:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: RfA

Thank you, I am hounoured that you are willing to nominate me, however I must point out that I had a second RfA which closed just over a month ago which I withdrew because of the oppose votes were almost equalling the oppose votes (shown here) and it was mainly due to the fact it came to there attention I voted in 6 AfDs n eight minutes (oopss) but it was a good point and that was their main reason to oppose. Ryan offered to nominate me and kindly asked him if he could wait a bit and he see he'd happily if that was what I wanted, I would be completely honoured though if you did nominate me or co-nom me in the coming months (probably around July/June). Again thank you very much. Respectfully. TellyaddictTalk 08:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate AFD closure

I'm sorry, but your recent non-admin closure was inappropriate, since it did not meet the standards at Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions. FrozenPurpleCube 15:41, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I am sure you thought you were doing the right thing, however it was clear to me that your actions were inappropriate for several reasons. The first was the clearly there was not a consensus to keep based on the merits of the articles. In addition, as you noted, this discussion was also prematurely closed before, but that was reverted. That you were ignorant of that only indicates to me that you didn't properly examine the situation before action. Beyond that, I notice that you indicate on your user page involvement with several chess articles. It is highly frowned upon for admins to take action on subjects where they are involved, let alone individuals users. FrozenPurpleCube 21:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I hope I'm not coming across as offensive, but there are reasons why it is important to not take the kind of precipitous action you did, and while I hope you meant well, I suggest in the future you be more discreet. FrozenPurpleCube 21:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

If you wish advise on how to decide Consensus on closure of an article, all I can do is suggest you talk to some admins and get their advice. I'm concerned that the disagreement involving these articles will prevent us from communicating effectively enough, so I think it'd be better if you checked with a third-party. You may wish to try the talk page at WP:DP for advice. FrozenPurpleCube 21:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Hoaxes

Thanks! I missed one somehow. ;^) Crum375 17:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Chlophedianol

Hi there; I just noticed your tagging of Chlophedianol for speedy deletion. I meant to create the relevant article immediately after the redirect, but got sidetracked—I apologize, I wasn't aware of that particular criterion for speedy deletion. I won't add a {{hangon}} tag (I don't think this is worth contesting) but I will create the actual article soon. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

OK then. I'd never thought of that (articles being deleted and redirects to them staying in place) but it makes obvious sense. Thanks again, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

References

I added the relevant references for the articles you tagged for deletion.Also i would like to like to mention that the article is going to be part of a larger more notable article which i am intending to write soon.

Thanks for your notice.

Template:pnc nominated for deletion

See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Template:pnc for the discussion, which will certainly spill over into larger issues. Your thoughts would be appreciated. --Kevin Murray 23:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Re : Regarding a non admin closure I recently attempted

First of all, don't worry about the early close you have done. :)

Deletion debates that are closed early usually occur when there is hardly any further discussion to go forward, and consensus on whether the article is to be deleted or not becomes clear. Usually (though not every case) we respect the nominator's request in good faith to extend debates when new information appears or/and on the opinion that the article in question has not been debated fully.

I'm not surprised that early closes were attempted because at some point of time there was clearly no consensus to delete the article (which differs from consensus to keep the article, a merge does not equate a delete). Notwithstanding the 5 day minimum time lag, the eventual outcome would not change if I were to close it now. These days more generalised discussion on notability, state of articles do get raised in AfD, but the most basic goal we look out for in any nomination is for the nominator to adovcate deletion.

FrozenPurpleCube appears to be asking more for a relook into the notability standards of chess opening pages in general. Perhaps the next best step after this AfD would be having a centralised discussion to sort out all these before heading back to AfD.

- Cheers, Mailer Diablo 11:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: RFA

I have replied at my talk page. Thank you, Black Falcon 19:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks again, Black Falcon 16:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

TeckWiz's RFA

Hey YechielMan. Thanks for supporting my unsuccessful RFA this week. I hope to keep helping and improving Wikipedia alongside you. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 01:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

My RFA

Ah, darn. Looks like my RFA didn't succeed. No doubt I'll take another run at it in a few months when my edit count isn't such an issue. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ Yell ○ 03:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thank you for formatting this AfD for multiple nominations. Apparently I was too lazy for doing it myself. :-) Best regards, Húsönd 04:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD

I consider that a tribute, but the schools and roads and shopping center and local history people don't consider me much of an inclusionist; I'll have to tally up my !votes some day. And sometimes I try just to balance to prevent it from being too hasty. And I'll remove a prod and send to AfD if I think its worth discussion, even though probably not a keep. Am I overdoing those 2 parts? I don't want to hinder things. And it's hard to tell by oneself. DGG 04:40, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely I knew you'd understand the spirit, or I would never have posted in the first place, & you knew that or you wouldn't have. Altogether friendly all around.DGG 04:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

..for your Draft suggestion. I'm an old hat at wiki's but new to wikipedia. Still feeling out the preferred method of operations! Ericandsuzy 15:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Aranho/"Titanic Book" Collection

Hi. Sorry, I know you're 'one of the good guys', but I think you're a bit of line here. I could be mistaken (with you being out of line, not the good guy bit!). Anyway, please see my comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Aranho/"Titanic Book" Collection and either put me right (!) or drop the user a nice message. Thanks. --Dweller 16:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. As we English say, "it takes a big man to admit he's wrong". Impressive response at MfD. --Dweller 16:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
From what you have said, I allow you to removing these things from my userpage if you want to. But if a majority of other users does not want it to be removed, then don't remove it. But no matter what, please give me time to transfer them to my computer file. I have given my opinions in your Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Aranho/"Titanic Book" Collection. Thanks for the telling me what is right and/or what is wrong. Aranho 11:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I think we did good. Nice one, Yechiel. --Dweller 12:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[Comment redacted]

Meddling 03:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Signpost

Some parts could be written more NPOV (i.e. not stating that "voting is evil", merely mentioning that many users believe that voting is evil). Other than that, it does generally look good. I'll publish it on Monday; if you have time between now and then, you can update the results; if not, I'll take care of it. Thanks for the help. Ral315 » 07:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Looking for input

Hello, you recently participated in this AfD. There is a discussion going on at the article's talk page about the title of the article, so I am notifying everyone who voted or commented on the AfD in case you wanted to participate in the discussion. Thanks! Tufflaw 00:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Shirahadasha RfA

Thanks so much for taking the time to comment on my my RfA, which was successful. I learned a lot from the comments, I appreciate everything that was said, and I'll do my best to deserve the community's trust. Thanks again! Thanks so much for your support, especially since we've sometimes disagreed. --Shirahadasha 04:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Shalom Yechiel/Archives/April 2007 and thank you for your support on my recent request for adminship. Unfortunately, the request failed, however I aim to improve the concerns that were brought up and hopefully bring myself up to the standards of admin. Once again, I thank you for your support. --KzTalk• Contribs 12:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Editor review

Thanks for reviewing me!! Evilclown93 19:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Anand Jain

I added some references to the article about Anand Jain. Could you please revisit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anand Jain? --Eastmain 05:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Shalom Yechiel/Archives, thank you for supporting my RfA!
I was promoted with a final tally of 68/12/0.
Also, please wish a Happy Birthday to Her Majesty the Queen. Vivat Regina!

RfA-suggestion

I really appreciate your proposal to nominate me as an admin and I'm grateful that you trust my abilities as a wikipedian, but it's not going to happen... I have no desire to become an admin and I frankly don't believe I'd do a very good job. I'm hot-tempered, quite often a poor diplomat and I'm quite often bored to death by administrative duties. I don't mind reverting the occasional vandalism, but I don't see any point in asking for the official mop-'n'-bucket for that. Besides, I've had quite a lot of heated conflicts. Nominating me would stir up more noise than it'd be worth. Wikipedia is far better off with me as a normal user.

But again, thanks for the show of confidence.

sincerely,
Peter Isotalo 15:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Closing Afds

Hi YechielMan, please remember to remove the line saying {{REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AfD|something}} from inactive AfDs so as not to confuse the bot. Thank you PeaceNT 15:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I've just noticed. You've closed too many AfDs as "speedy keep". Please see also Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and refrain yourself from doing so in the future. Thank you PeaceNT 15:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Think Safety (talk · contribs)

See also OWO 4 Life (talk · contribs) and Digital Underground (talk · contribs) --Yankees76 18:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Good call. I'll delete most or all of those as well. YechielMan 18:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I think they're all somehow related to or are Pelican (talk · contribs). Also in this little group are OspreySwoop (talk · contribs), Hollywood Anonymous (talk · contribs) and RAIDEN PROJECT (talk · contribs), they're probably harmless, but there are other websites for this sort of thing. --Yankees76 19:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that they are all probably sock or meatpuppets. Since they seem to be inactive, the only thing to do about it is delete inappropriate content that they've created. Again, thanks for the heads up. YechielMan 19:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
All of your edits have been reverted a number of times now. Yankees76 23:52, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Signpost

The article you wrote on the RfA reform is good. However, one of the ones you mentioned is scheduled to close in two hours. Would you be able to add on to it as it closes and talk about the closing statement left by the bureaucrat? The Placebo Effect 21:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Editor review

Hey, thank you for the encouraging editor review! I really appreciate your taking the time. Regards, DickClarkMises 17:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair point

[2] Good point. Done. WjBscribe 01:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for being the first to review me. Sr13 (T|C) ER 04:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your review :) I found your comments very helpful. PageantUpdater User Talk Review me! 04:51, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Redirect to Rangoon bombing

Hi; I despeedied 강민철 (Kang Min-cheol) because WP:REDIRECT specifically mentions "redirects from alternative languages" as one of the reasons for using redirects. You're welcome to bring it to a WP:RFD debate as a test case if you are opposed to this practise; presently there are quite a few redirects from non-Latin titles (see, for example, Category:Redirects_from_Japanese_words/names the third page onwards [3] of Category:Redirects from alternative languages, etc. My opinion here is that redirects are cheap, so we might as well make it easy for people to find information. cab 02:40, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Federico Ortiz Quezada

Thanks for adding the clean-up tag. I hope someone interested sees it and does some work. KP Botany 03:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Closure of University of Wisconsin disambig

Hi, I've reverted your closure, which I consider premature and ill-advised. This discussion was actually previously closed and then reopened by consent here: [4] As such, I don't think it was appropriate for you, as a non-admin to close it again. Since I've seen you do this before, and I note above, that at least one other user has commented on you doing it excessively, I'm going to caution you to avoid closing further discussions, especially since this is not once, but twice, where the reverted closure was apparent in the history. I personally don't see that the outcome is going to change, I support keeping it, but there's no reason to close in this case, and plenty of good reasons not to do so. FrozenPurpleCube 03:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for assuming what I feel about WP:SNOW (I actually feel it's a poorly written page, so should be avoided in any discussion, though I don't object in principle to it, I would like better articulation), but um, my problem is that you clearly didn't investigate the history, you're not an admin, and WP:DP does clearly say non-admins shouldn't close AfD's early. There's no reason to be hasty here, the nomination wasn't in completely bad faith (like the recent Lauren Conrad AFD's I have stated should be closed early. If you do feel some action should be taken, I suggest trying WP:ANI and letting an admin do it. Especially since it doesn't seem to me you're interested in a thorough examination of AFD history before you speedy close. Personally, I'd suggest trying to talk to the user instead and convince them to reconsider their objections. FrozenPurpleCube 03:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA comment

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. I feel that bringing the user to the attention of ANI would just have further stoked the fires and definitely convinced her I was out to get her/her cause, whereas she would loose interest if I just closed the door and ignore her. (Which she, indeed, did).

As for why I saw her as attacking me... well, that would be because she was. Being called a climate denier is, to most people, an insult. And even if I hadn't felt it as one, she clearly intended it as a slur. I'm all for assuming good faith, but she was obviously out to push an agenda (however well intended), and probably an egg or two short of a dozen.

Further experience will probably affect the detail of how I'll deal with such cases, but not the substance. I've already rephrased my blurb (you seemed to have felt it was overly harsh), but I've retained it.

Hey, it'd be boring if we were all identical drones reacting uniformly to everything, right? Coren 12:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Comments at the Village Pump

Hi, your comments at the Village pump [[5]] were referenced in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grünfeld 4.Bf4. As I believe the editor who remarked on them is misinterpreting the substance of the discussion there, I'd like you to clarify your position so that a fuller understanding can be reached. If the AFD closes before you get a chance to respond, feel free to comment on my talk page and on that of the user. Thanks! FrozenPurpleCube 18:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I respectfully decline your request for me to comment. I've had enough trouble on this particular issue, so I'd prefer to leave it alone. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. YechielMan 19:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

PROD:blog

Thanks for pointing out that I can't have that in my userpage, wasn't aware of that WK:NOT; but please, in the future, replace "BUSTED! :)" with "Just do this to delete it". I've never actually deleted a page, so I'm not sure if I've properly done it, or if I've got some empty page wreaking havoc in it's little kilobyte of serverspace. Kalthuras 20:15, 27 April 2007 (UTC) Thanks for the tip! Kalthuras 00:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Josh Hancock

Hi. Regarding this edit, I think people might have seen this, which seems to be genuine, so I've let the edits stand and included it as a source. Is this OK with you? – Gurch 15:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

It's legit; it's up on MLB.com, ESPN.com, and ESPN just broke into coverage of the NFL draft to announce it. Metros232 15:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I've seen cases before where people have faked deaths of living people, and a quick Google search didn't turn up any news items. I'm sorry to hear that he died, but thanks for following up. YechielMan 16:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Rfa

proposed responses on the page you started. DGG 10:30, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Thank you, Shalom Yechiel/Archives, for your constructive comments in my recent RFA, which passed with 86 support, 8 oppose, and 5 neutral !votes. I will keep in mind all your suggestions and/or concerns, and will try to live up to your standards. Please, if you have any comments or complaints about my actions as an administrator, leave a note on my talk page, and I will respond as soon as I possibly can, without frying my brain, of course.
Thank you once more,
· AndonicO Talk

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Thanks on the Editor Review

Thanks for reviewing me. I joined a WikiProject a little while ago, WikiProject Pink Floyd. Plus, those 2 articles were from when I just started on Wikipedia (iBox was from when I was an IP address). I'll try to start using your advice ASAP.--ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 20:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

hey, thanks for the kind words and for not kicking my butt.

now that it's been removed from the admin noticeboard. r b-j 23:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)