User talk:Shadowbot3

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[edit] Flagged

I have flagged your bot. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notice

Shadowbot3 was recently changed to honor the DoUnreplied directive in the Werdnabot syntax. Prior to today, Werdnabot would archive sections regardless of the status of this directive. If your talk page isn't being archived despite the age of the sections, it is most likely because this directive is not switched on. To enable archiving of unreplied sections, add this code to your Werdnabot directive, immediately before the Target directive:

DoUnreplied-Yes

Shadowbot3 will now archive sections with one or more signatures. Shadow1 (talk) 12:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


...and it has archived unresponded sections in RFC... The change is so giantic I'd enjoy to revert it all *mwahaha foood*
I don't mind that, just take care what's going on in the WP discussion:Requests for feedback...! --Lazer erazer 23:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
But the only reason it's doing that is because the order is specified in the page's directive. If unresponded sections need to be kept, then remove the DoUnreplied code. Shadow1 (talk) 11:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Werdnabot i talk page is ariched by that bot but it seems it not working could someone help me first to make it sure it set up right and second not sure it aricheding the page thanksOo7565 19:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malfunction

Please see Shadow1's comment on Wikipedia:Bot requests#Shadowbot3_error. Grandmasterka rolled back all the bot's edits.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing archived discussions

It says that this bot archived parts of my talk page, but I don't know where they are. Where is most of my talk page?--Thomas.macmillan 02:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

6,770 bytes in User talk:Thomas.macmillan/Archive May 2007
8,945 bytes in User talk:Thomas.macmillan/Archive Jun 2007
8,146 bytes in User talk:Thomas.macmillan/Archive Jul 2007
5,232 bytes in User talk:Thomas.macmillan/Archive Aug 2007
  — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiktionary

Hi, could you run on the English Wiktionary? We were relying on WerdnaBot for several important things (including the main discussion pages!).

You can go ahead without a bot flag, and we'll get it later. (Not sure WerdnaBot ever had it, come to think of it ;-) Robert Ullmann 16:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll look into setting up the bot on Wiktionary, sure. It shouldn't be terribly hard. Shadow1 (talk) 13:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Code

What code should I put on my talk page for this to work? --Eddie (talk/contribs) 18:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

A tutorial on how to set up Shadowbot3 can be found on User talk:Werdnabot. Shadow1 (talk) 20:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)

Is there any reason why the top two sections aren't being archived? I've added timestamps to section deadline extension for participation in Wikipedia study and a little backup? but the bot hasn't archived them. Any thoughts? Steve block Talk 20:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Got a feeling it may have been in the order the date stamp was written, [1]. Will see how it goes through today. Steve block Talk 09:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm still trying to figure out why this won't work. I have a feeling it has to do with the <small> tags, but I can't see how that would affect the bot. Shadow1 (talk) 13:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
It didn't hurt at the village pump news, but the subst template looks different there in code form. Curious. [2]. Steve block Talk 12:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

Please dont archive my talk page. You can archive User talk:SqueakBox/current but not my talk page. Thanks, SqueakBox 15:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, SqueakBox 15:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No archiving in nearly 2 weeks

The last archive run on my talk page was 30 May. Nothing since. Suggestions? DarkAudit 21:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Working on it. Shadow1 (talk) 22:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)r

[edit] Cut but no paste

Hi. Today the bot properly cut a section from my talk page for archiving diff, it properly created an entry in the index page diff but it never pasted the section into the archive {page history). Is the plan for the paste to come later, or should I do it manually? Thanks! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 14:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Same thing happened to me, only I don't have an index. It said it archived 5 sections but the archive page didn't show anything. I'm reverting for now, but I'm not sure if you're planning on having them come in later like Elipongo above said. --RazorICE 08:59, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, now that the damage is done, there's really no efficient way to revert it, apart from having the talkpage owners check manually. Shadow1 (talk) 15:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok, it looks like the run malfunctioned because of high db lag, ie, the bot was experiencing db locks, which it didn't know how to go around. I've fixed the bot to stop archiving a page if it can't save the page, but it's a little harder than you'd think to make a bot ACID compliant. Shadow1 (talk) 14:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you Shadow1. I fixed the archiving on my talk page manually, so no big whoop. Just to let you know, I do appreciate your bot's work a lot, and I appreciate YOU for picking up the work after Werdna had to leave. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree with Elipongo. You're doing a great job! Also, the bot successfully archived my talk page after I reverted it, so looks like it's doing good now! :D Thanks a lot for all the great work! --RazorICE 09:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I also appreciate what you've done, Shadow1. Elipongo, why did Werdna have to leave? Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character set problem

It looks like Shadowbot3 is having some sort of UTF-related character set problem. See this diff. Mike Dillon 15:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Special characters getting clobbered

In the archive and in my active talk page, special characters were transmogrified, such as José Pagán to José Pagán. It's not the end of the world, but I thought you should know. Otherwise, thanks for the memories. Chris the speller 15:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, obviously, Mike and I saw the same problem and reported it at almost the exact same time. Chris the speller 15:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Likewise. Rich Farmbrough, 15:30 16 June 2007 (GMT).
Just in case more data is useful, I've seen the problem as well. The em-dash and bullet in "SVG versions of your WotC rarity icons" appear to be damaged. — Alan De Smet | Talk 15:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
ditto
— superbfc [ talk | cont ] — 15:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Just in case you didn't figure out immediately what's going on: the bot reads the UTF-8 text as if it was ISO-8859-1, and then writes each byte back as a full unicode character (producing many invisible characters in the empty range of U+0080 - U+009F):

Orig.char Unicode UTF-8 code units Rendered as Unicode
Æ U+00C6 C3-86 Æ U+00C3 U+0086
— U+2014 E2-80-94 — U+00E2 U+0080 U+0094
’ U+2019 E2-80-99 ’ U+00E2 U+0080 U+0099

Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Since I assume the code for this bot didn't change, I would guess that this has something to do with a change in the default character set of the environment where it is running from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1. Mike Dillon 18:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually, no, I did change the code. For some inexplicable reason, the bot was puking (so to speak) on pages (actually, just one) with nonstandard encoding, so I told it to convert all of the text to UTF-8 before saving the text. Apparently that was a bad move. I've reverted the change, I'll test it for the next run. Shadow1 (talk) 21:47, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, evidently it was trying to do that conversion to UTF-8 on text that didn't need it because it already was in UTF-8. What pages with nonstandard encoding were you dealing with otherwise? (Just out of curiosity.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S.: Ah, I saw that discussion you had on your user talk, about Perlwikipedia. Unicode support in Perl is extremely confusing. You probably want to check the Encode manpage, especially the section where it talks about the "utf8" flag in its internal string representation. Have you considered trying "utf8::upgrade($wikitext)" instead of "encode("utf8", $wikitext)"? Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Not entirely sure. It was failing on one user's talkpage because there was an accented character in a section title, so I figured it would be a good idea to make it Unicode-compliant before I started running into more problems. As for the utf8 pragma idea, I'll look into it and see what happens. Shadow1 (talk) 00:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
In case you missed it, it also messed up VP/T a bit. --Splarka (rant) 07:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Broke em dashes as well. See my talk page [3]

Can you please have the bot go around and fix all of the pages it broke since you changed the code? — Omegatron 22:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

This bot also screwed up the ☑ character, breaking the image Image:☑.svg. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 04:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I have had the same problem.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  07:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is something wrong?

I currently have my talk page set up to have this bot run every week or so (7 day old timestamps). It last run on June 19, 9 days ago. That's fine. However, I have a section that has been around since May 6, more than 7 weeks ago. The bot has archived my talk page 15 times since the time that section should've been archived, from May 15 to June 19. I know the bot is working, but is there any particular reason why this section hasn't been archived, since it was last edited 7 week ago? Thanks. --Ksy92003(talk) 14:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

It's a known problem with the bot. I honestly have no idea why this occurs, but it has something to do with the timestamp detection code. Hopefully I can find the source of the problem soon. Shadow1 (talk) 15:04, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I thought it might've been related to the fact that the following section lacked a time code. If this were the case, I thought it would be best for me to go into the page history and find the date the unsigned comment was signed and, using WP:SIG, signed it for the other user. Do you think that might've been part of the reason why the bot failed to detect that comment: because the comment directly after it was unsigned, meaning it had no timestamp? --Ksy92003(talk) 15:11, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I haven't considered that possibility, but I will look into it. Shadow1 (talk) 19:53, 28 June 2007 (UTC)r
Is the problem still occuring? Since it hasn't archived my page for a while. -WarthogDemon 00:46, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, Shadow1. But I am still having that problem. Aside from the first two sections, everything else on my talk page is working perfectly fine. Since it isn't being archived, and the two sections in question aren't really that important enough as far as any discussion I've had on my talk page, would a better avenue be to simply remove those sections completely? ––Ksy92003(talk) 04:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

That seems to be the best approach. Other users have reported the same problem, and I honestly don't know what it is. I'm looking into it, though, and may have some idea of where it could be. Shadow1 (talk) 11:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The bot doesn't care about me anymore.

Common, it's been more than a month, and the bot hasn't done anything. I hired that bot since it's too much for me to clean up my talk page, but there is nothing wrong with it, I must have done something wrong, since the bot still archives one of the talk pages on my watchlist. Please tell me what I can do. I know I did something wrong in the past, and I don't know how to undo that mistake. TheBlazikenMaster 00:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

You need to set the Age parameter in your code. Replace "May-31" with "Age-<age of sections to archive>". Shadow1 (talk) 16:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
No, it doesn't work, I tried, common, I need to do something, if the bot won't do something, the page is gonna be very messy. TheBlazikenMaster 20:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Alright, someone fixed it, I'll see if it works, if it does I will put resolved tag. TheBlazikenMaster 21:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Not sure if it is . . . it's slacking off again. A whole bunch of sections on my talk page should be moved but haven't . . . is Shadowbot lagging or something? -WarthogDemon 20:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Apologies. Due to security concerns, I was forced to change the bot's password, but forgot to update the script with the new logon information. Should be fixed now. Shadow1 (talk) 20:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This Just Stopped

For some reason it no longer works for me. -WarthogDemon 23:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

It's working now. Thanks. :) -WarthogDemon 02:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving broken at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam

Hello Shadowbot! These are my notes on a problem over at WT:WPSPAM. It has been working fine up till now:

BAD ARCHIVES (Shadowbot3 deleted from current, but didn't add to archive):

Aug 18 [4]
Aug 17 [5]
Aug 16 [6]
Aug 15 [7]
Aug 14 [8]

These are all the failures I could see. On August 13 it was done correctly. Do you have any idea what this could be? Could there be something wrong in the file being archived? Perusing the Shadowbot3 contribution history by eye, I saw no failures on any other projects. EdJohnston 04:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The only recent change in the template was this one on 9 August, where I increased the delay from 3 days to 6. EdJohnston 05:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, Hu12 points out that this was due to a blacklisted link in the archive. It's been corrected now. Nothing for you to fix. EdJohnston 15:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Botched archiving?

Where did it put this? Does the bot not read templates? --Pekaje 08:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Yep. It recognizes only certain date-related magic words, but it will not automatically transclude the contents of templates. Shadow1 (talk) 23:23, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough. So presumably there is no way to make the bot archive on a quarterly basis? Alternatively, how much trouble would it be to implement a new set of options to allow one to specify a page that, when rendered by Wikipedia (like this for instance), indicates the archive location? --Pekaje 23:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
It wouldn't be too hard, but I'm concerned that, with enough people using it, the bot would slow down considerably due to it having to grab an extra page or two per archive. That, and some evildoers (yes, I said it) could lock the bot up for an hour by specifying several hundred extra page grabs. Shadow1 (talk) 23:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, yes, I see your point. Well, I guess that's just too bad then, unless you have another suggestion for how to implement automated quarterly archiving without any major recoding on your part. --Pekaje 00:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I'll look into it. I'm thinking that I can introduce a new switch for this type of archiving. Shadow1 (talk) 13:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia

Shadowbot 3 has been set in the past by a retired wikipedian to archive Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia every two weeks. This is way too frequent in my opinion for what is not a high use, but important, page. I'd like to see topics kept longer. In fact, I'd much rather see the bot deactivated on that page altogether. Can anyone help? cheers --Merbabu 10:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I've adjusted the timing from 14 to 28 days. (Caniago 01:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Can I use shadowbot...?

Can I have the bot put on my user page, on WikiProject UK Trams and WikiProject Derbyshire please? All really infrequent. Once a month or whatever will do! Thanks! Bluegoblin7 22:37, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)

WP:VPT has some very old sections, even though they do have proper dates. Why aren't they archived? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derlay (talk • contribs) 00:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Village pump (technical) says that Shadowbot3 is archiving the page, but clearly, it isn't. Can you either archive the talk page or remove the tag? Cheers. --MZMcBride 22:28, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bug, reverted edit

This bot randomly deleted half of a comment I left on User talk:BetacommandBot. See this diff. The comment was added only hours earlier, and only half of it was deleted.

Perhaps the bot should exclude anything inside of <nowiki></nowiki> tags. нмŵוτнτ 01:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving for today

You probably already know, but the bot didn't run tonight. - Rjd0060 00:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] If you edit Betacommandbot'sUser page..

How come you hven't replied to my Template comment?I have asked 3 times on betacommandbot's user page and never gotten a reply.please tell me why.I need to be able to fill in the template on Image:Default.jpg.IslaamMaged126 20:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

This user exists as a bot account that serves to archive users' talk pages. If you have an inquiry about BetacommandBot, please take it up with Betacommand, who operates the aforementioned bot. Shadowbot3 cannot respond to inquiries left on its talk page, and it does not deal with the problem you are describing. Shadow1 (talk) 21:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why aren't you archiving my talk page?

why? TheBlazikenMaster 00:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

There was a syntax error, "Aug-31". You introduced it as "Sep-31" in this edit, and Shadow1 fixed it in this other edit. Shadowbot3 is now archiving your user talk page.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 00:59, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How do I include a page?

So how do I make this bot work? I can't find a documentation page explaining how to sign up a page for this bot's archiving. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Please see User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Howto. Thanks!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archival to semi-protected pages?

I just want to double check, but is the bot able to archive to semi-protected subpages? I imagine it does, but wanted to make sure. Thanks. - Rjd0060 (talk) 07:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

It probably is able to, given that it is an established user account.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Thats what I figured...Thank you! - Rjd0060 (talk) 22:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the bot can archive to semiprotected pages. Shadow1 (talk) 22:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again.. - Rjd0060 (talk) 22:57, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Hello. The bot had some problems archiving my talk page: a section is overwritten or missed: diff => archived

I dunno. I think that I configured it right. Any help is welcome: many thanks for your work. --Call me Elmo Sesame Street 19:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hello. I added archival template to Talk:Český Těšín several days ago but Shadowbot3 still did not archived that. Where is the problem? Thanks. - Darwinek (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] autoarchiving?

Isn't the Graphics Lab page supposed to automatically archive checked images? Or must this be done manually? How often is it supposed to take place? Chris (クリス) (talk) 04:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Timing problems

Is the bot having glitches or something? I have it set to archive my talkpage after 7 days of no edits, but today it archived a section that had a reply about 3 days ago. The same thing is happening at the talk page of WP:PW (also set at 7 days). It never had this problem before, so what's up? TJ Spyke 06:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Overly hasty archiving

Can you explain this archiving edit? Comments are supposed to be archived from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity after 14 days, but this comment had only been up for 10 days before it was archived. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Broken?

Shadowbot3 is archiving Betacommand's page, and so is MiszaBot III. This is creating a strange issue/conflict:

—Zachary talk 15:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This bot is currently blocked

If you have come here to complain that your talk page is not being archived, it is because the bot has been blocked because the owner is gone and it is not functioning properly. You may wish to switch to a different archiving bot. —Random832 03:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps a list of archiving bots would be handy for those confused and coming here?--Crossmr (talk) 01:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

MiszaBot, ClueBot III, and MercuryBot can automatically create cut-and-paste archives for any discussion page Tim Vickers (talk) 04:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)