Template talk:Shakespeare

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I thought The Tempest was a tragicomedy... Sonic Mew | talk to me 14:31, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Order of the Plays

The plays are neither in alphabetical order or in chronological order. I think it should be the former because there is no consensus on an exact chronology. The current order seems random or in order of somebody's estimate of popularity.Scottandrewhutchins 03:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right ... anyone else have a comment? The Singing Badger 04:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Another reason to put them in alphabetical order is because the division into genre breaks any meaningful chronological order. -Acjelen 15:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested revision to template

What do people think of the following? Remember 16:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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William Shakespeare and his works
General information
Tragedies
Comedies
Histories
Poems
Apocrypha and
Lost Plays
Other play
information

Moved comments from Shakespeare WikiProject page:
 I wanted to get the project's opinion on my suggested change to the Shakespeare template. So what do you think?Remember 16:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I like it! Bardofcornish 21:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

  • I like it too. I notice that it looks better on a high-res monitor, since on a lower resolution the pic has quite a lot of while space above and below. Also, have you tried centre-aligning the text in the middle column? AndyJones 12:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I generally don't like to center text in templates (and I don't know how) but someone else is free to tweak it. With this positive feedback, I am going to change the template. Remember 13:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Now someone has shown a preference for the old one. If you prefer the new old (or prefer the old one) please speak up at the template's talk page (where I am moving this discussion). Remember 13:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Prefer the current one. The differentiated shading for each section, though, would improve the current. DionysosProteus 13:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I have restored the left justified version of the template, which was changed without discussion. It seemed to me the centered version was harder to read and looked...well...odd. If there is a consensus to change it back, I will not raise a ruckus, but the current version now looks cleaner and more professional, imho. Smatprt (talk) 06:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I undid your restoration edit (sorry), followed by an edit where I left-aligned the lists. I'm aware that my edits were quite bold, but as I did my edits in small bits, you can look through the diffs – they should be quite readable. And I think that my version is somewhat “cleaner” than the old one. It may not look entirely identical, but that may be fixed. Best regards, Fred Bradstadt (talk) 08:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, what I'd prefer is something like what was proposed (above) last October. I have here included the currently used image, but for example Image:First Folio.jpg might fit better (being taller than wide):
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William Shakespeare and his works
General information
Tragedies
Comedies
Histories
Poems
Apocrypha and
lost plays
Other play
information
–Fred Bradstadt (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree. I like the template that uses navbox features (I especially like mine above). If you want to seek consensus for the change I will support it. Remember (talk) 13:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I also strongly agree. The template is quite ugly in its current form and the new form looks much cleaner, has the collapsible option, and is a standard form. --CapitalR (talk) 13:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thanks for justifying left. I like it with the additional (present) changes as well. Not sure about Shakespeare's floating head in the version above though. I don't think it looks quite professional from a graphic layout standpoint. Perhaps if the graphic was in the upright corner? Not sure. Smatprt (talk) 18:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I keep flipping back and forth between the templates above and the present one. I pasted it in below to make comparisons easier. Having done that and looking at the 3 on this page, the one below looks cleanest and most professional (imho). The image in the upleft corner looks well placed and the air around the template title makes for a pleasing presentation. I would advise keeping the present version (with the recent changes). Smatprt (talk) 05:24, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 William Shakespeare and his works
General information Biography · Style · Influence · Reputation · Religion · Sexuality · Shakespeare authorship question
Tragedies Antony and Cleopatra · Coriolanus · Cymbeline · Hamlet · Julius Caesar · King Lear · Macbeth · Othello · Romeo and Juliet · Timon of Athens · Titus Andronicus · Troilus and Cressida
Comedies All's Well That Ends Well · As You Like It · The Comedy of Errors · Love's Labour's Lost · Measure for Measure · The Merchant of Venice · The Merry Wives of Windsor · A Midsummer Night's Dream · Much Ado About Nothing · Pericles, Prince of Tyre · The Taming of the Shrew · The Tempest · Twelfth Night · The Two Gentlemen of Verona · The Two Noble Kinsmen · The Winter's Tale
Histories King John · Richard II · Henry IV, Part 1 · Henry IV, Part 2 · Henry V · Henry VI, part 1 · Henry VI, part 2 · Henry VI, part 3 · Richard III · Henry VIII
Poems Sonnets · Venus and Adonis · The Rape of Lucrece · The Passionate Pilgrim · The Phoenix and the Turtle · A Lover's Complaint
Apocrypha and
lost plays		 Edward III · Sir Thomas More · Cardenio (lost) · Love's Labour's Won (lost) · The Birth of Merlin · Locrine · The London Prodigal · The Puritan · The Second Maiden's Tragedy · Richard II, Part I: Thomas of Woodstock · Sir John Oldcastle · Thomas Lord Cromwell · A Yorkshire Tragedy · Fair Em · Mucedorus · The Merry Devil of Edmonton · Arden of Faversham · Edmund Ironside · Vortigern and Rowena
Other play
information		 Shakespeare's plays · Shakespeare in performance · Chronology of Shakespeare plays · Oxfordian chronology · Shakespeare on screen · BBC Television Shakespeare · Titles based on Shakespeare · Lists of characters A–K, L–Z · Problem plays · List of historical characters · Ghost characters